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post Jan 15 2007, 02:01 PM
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Flying on Triton is no problem; you just need a chopper with blades a couple of kilometers long... rolleyes.gif

(Semi)seriously, would anything we think of as atmospheric flight work at all on Triton? I doubt that even a balloon "filled" with several cubic km of lab-quality vacuum would generate enough lift to get itself off the surface, much less a useful payload. Mars by comparison is a veritable pressure cooker.


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post Jan 18 2007, 02:43 AM
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Limited as it is, Triton's atmosphere is still an aerobraking resource per Helvick's calculations. Whether it SHOULD be used as such is a whole other issue. It may conceivably give some flexibility in trajectory planning & fuel budgeting (i.e., a Neptune orbiter/Triton lander might be able to cast off the lander at some point during its own aerobraking sequence & let the lander do its own aerobraking @ Triton). That scenario is kind of complex in terms of mission-critical events, but may be worth thinking about in terms of fuel savings.

And actually, isn't it almost axiomatic that highly elliptical orbits are much cheaper to achieve in terms of delta-V? If that's a valid assumption, then this 'dual-aerobraking' scenario might allow us to fly a significantly larger lander payload.


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- nprev   Aerobraking at Triton   Jan 15 2007, 02:01 PM
- - tty   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 15 2007, 03:01 PM) (Se...   Jan 15 2007, 07:54 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (tty @ Jan 15 2007, 07:54 PM) The q...   Jan 16 2007, 07:37 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (helvick @ Jan 16 2007, 08:37 AM) A...   Jan 16 2007, 07:26 PM
- - nprev   Interesting thought, TTY. I guess wind isn't e...   Jan 16 2007, 02:09 AM
- - edstrick   Without taking the <for me excessive> time t...   Jan 16 2007, 12:20 PM
- - edstrick   My *PREJUDICE* is that any atmosphere thick enough...   Jan 17 2007, 09:39 AM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 17 2007, 09:39 AM) ...   Jan 17 2007, 06:00 PM
- - nprev   Hmm...Helvick saves the day again with his powerfu...   Jan 17 2007, 10:42 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 17 2007, 10:42 PM) Tha...   Jan 18 2007, 12:06 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Why use Triton, though? Neptune has all kinds of ...   Jan 18 2007, 12:38 AM
- - djellison   That is what I was thinking - Neptune would really...   Jan 18 2007, 12:44 AM
- - nprev   Limited as it is, Triton's atmosphere is still...   Jan 18 2007, 02:43 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Here's a question I've wanted to ask to an...   Jan 18 2007, 06:17 AM
- - mchan   Some of the Neptune / Triton mission studies propo...   Jan 18 2007, 08:41 AM
- - tasp   With the Voyager 2 data in hand, and the capabilit...   Jan 18 2007, 03:22 PM
- - djellison   To conduct aerobraking at Mars - they used much of...   Jan 18 2007, 03:26 PM
|- - helvick   This is particularly true for Triton where there i...   Jan 18 2007, 06:45 PM
- - nprev   In engineering terms, how adaptable can an aerobra...   Jan 19 2007, 01:36 AM
- - tasp   You're idea has merits, but the resulting path...   Jan 24 2007, 06:03 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 24 2007, 10:03 AM) You...   Jan 25 2007, 04:22 PM
- - nprev   I like your idea, JR. What would be REALLY cool is...   Jan 25 2007, 01:40 AM
- - tasp   Presumably, the uncertainties in braking would inc...   Jan 26 2007, 03:47 AM
- - tasp   Seems like repeated banking during decel could inc...   Jan 26 2007, 03:55 AM
- - dvandorn   If you're talking about bleeding off NH or Voy...   Jan 26 2007, 04:11 AM
- - nprev   I don't think direct entry is an option, given...   Jan 26 2007, 04:22 AM
- - tasp   {sorry, I have no idea how to link this in a post,...   Aug 20 2009, 09:57 PM


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