Nasa Picks "juno" As Next New Frontiers Mission |
Nasa Picks "juno" As Next New Frontiers Mission |
Jul 15 2005, 07:22 AM
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Wow! I had no idea Europa Orbiter was really moving ahead with such (apparent) certainty! Personal outlandishly absurdly wishfull thinking hope for an included experiment -->coherent microwave receiver to listen for askaryan pulses in Europa's ice to make the whole moon one big EeV/PeV neutrino observatory. I wonder how much data bandwidth it would cost to include such an (incredibly unlikely) instrument.
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Jul 15 2005, 11:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Jul 15 2005, 08:22 AM) Wow! I had no idea Europa Orbiter was really moving ahead with such (apparent) certainty! Personal outlandishly absurdly wishfull thinking hope for an included experiment -->coherent microwave receiver to listen for askaryan pulses in Europa's ice to make the whole moon one big EeV/PeV neutrino observatory. I wonder how much data bandwidth it would cost to include such an (incredibly unlikely) instrument. The gas giants are perhaps not the friendliest environment for a super-sensitive neutrino detection experiment - but a nice, cold KBO might be a good place. Of course, it'd need a late 21st-Century Prometheus-2 power source to drive that big ol' ion engine to get there in a reasonable time scale then drop into orbit... -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jul 21 2005, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jul 8 2005, 02:07 AM) Ah. Thankee for the information, John. As for that high-resolution camera, its inclusion on Europa Orbiter now seems almost certain: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/jun_05_meetin..._Trace_OPAG.pdf The fact remains that we obviously still need lost more genuine closeup observations of Io as well. Incidently (and otherwise OT), I notice that same June 2005 OPAG meeting had a couple of presentations on a possible Neptune orbiter about 2017. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/jun_05_meetin...eptune_API1.pdf http://www.lpi.usra.edu/opag/jun_05_meetin...EP_OPAG_Rev.pdf (Hint to Doug: maybe it's time for a Neptune forum in the "Outer Solar System group) |
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Aug 5 2005, 03:13 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
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Aug 6 2005, 11:12 PM
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Nov 1 2005, 10:42 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 6 2005, 05:02 PM) ...I would have loved Galileo images close to Amalthea, but I am skeptical the spacecraft could have pulled it off. I have been working on some of the images Galileo took, and it is a very interesting world, especially given the new shape-model release... Does anyone know if a new shape model for Amalthea incorporating Galileo results has been made (and is available) somewhere? I'm of course aware of Philip Stooke's model and a few slightly modified versions of it but I have been unable to find anything really recent. |
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Nov 1 2005, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Nov 1 2005, 10:42 PM) Does anyone know if a new shape model for Amalthea incorporating Galileo results has been made (and is available) somewhere? I'm of course aware of Philip Stooke's model and a few slightly modified versions of it but I have been unable to find anything really recent. I have seen one with primary mission data, but none with the higher resolution data from the later part of the mission incorporated. -------------------- |
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Nov 1 2005, 10:47 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
QUOTE (tedstryk @ Nov 1 2005, 10:44 PM) I have seen one with primary mission data, but none with the higher resolution data from the later part of the mission incorporated. Do you know if it is available somewhere? Even something incorporating only data from the primary mission should be a significant improvement. |
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Nov 2 2005, 02:02 AM
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I saw graphics made from it in Icarus a few years back. I have never seen it online, much less the numerical data behind the graphics.
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Nov 3 2005, 07:19 AM
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Small satellite models, maybe created by Peter Thomas?
http://rhein-zeitung.de/on/98/09/16/topnews/jupiter.jpg |
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Nov 3 2005, 07:29 AM
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Nov 6 2005, 10:45 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Thanks - unfortunately no numerical data more recent than Stooke's model based on Voyager data seems to be available online anywhere.
Here is a rotation movie I did based on that model: http://www.mmedia.is/bjj/misc/animations/a...ea_rotation.avi This is the Stooke model resampled to a much bigger size using Photoshop. Some artifacts of the resampling process are visible. I may try modifying the model 'manually' by painting in some features (craters etc.) visible in the Galileo images. The texture map I used for this animation is a map of Mars (!). |
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Nov 28 2005, 06:59 AM
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There's a nice detailed description of the Juno mission (by far the most detailed I've seen anywhere) at http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...4/1/05-2760.pdf .
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Dec 3 2005, 01:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 19-March 05 From: Princeton, NJ, USA Member No.: 212 |
QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ Nov 6 2005, 10:45 PM) Thanks - unfortunately no numerical data more recent than Stooke's model based on Voyager data seems to be available online anywhere. Here is a rotation movie I did based on that model: http://www.mmedia.is/bjj/misc/animations/a...ea_rotation.avi Quote: Bruce Moomaw Nov 28 2005, 06:59 AM There's a nice detailed description of the Juno mission (by far the most detailed I've seen anywhere) at http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...4/1/05-2760.pdf . Bjorn: very nice animation Bruce: thanks for the nice Juno description |
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Dec 6 2005, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Nov 28 2005, 07:59 AM) There's a nice detailed description of the Juno mission (by far the most detailed I've seen anywhere) at http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstre...4/1/05-2760.pdf . The file (or rather the whole site) is gone . Or is not accesible outside the US? Does someone know where to get it else? Or could someone send it to my mail-account mymailtmp-1@yahoo.com ? (it's just a temp account to prevent spam, not wonder about the name ) Thanks |
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