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post Sep 24 2006, 12:19 PM
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I propose that NASA send a new probe to be named Venus-Express Express. It's mission is to go to Venus and check on what Venus Express is doing, and see if it is even still there.
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post Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM
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Oh don't get me started about how many wrong space factoids I've found on Wikipedia. A couple times when I took the time to make a change, they were reverted by some spotty teenager who happened to feel territorial about the article.

This has been called the age of the amateur - everyone can write an encyclopedia article, everyone can write software, etc. As romantic as that notion is, I have not found it to be terribly true. There is no substitute for training and study and experience.

The subject of on-line publication has been discussed here a few times. I'm all for it if it can be made to work. Certainly in the area of scientific publication, the companies who actually smear ink on paper have made it hard to access scientific knowledge online (without paying insane charges or belonging to expensive societies). But there still needs to be expert review.

I visit a site called digg.com every day. There again, interesting stuff, but the system of online voting quickly silences many expert-but-dissenting voices. I actually find it rather chilling that "democracy" can so quickly be used to bias and slant information. So again, I am not a fan of open amateur control of information.

Oh...I guess you did get me started...
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- DonPMitchell   Venus-Express Express   Sep 24 2006, 12:19 PM
- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 24 2006, 07:19 ...   Sep 24 2006, 01:22 PM
|- - paxdan   *whoosh* head   Sep 24 2006, 01:36 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Sep 24 2006, 02:22 PM) ...   Sep 24 2006, 02:34 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 24 2006, 03:34 PM) I...   Sep 24 2006, 03:57 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 24 2006, 09:34 AM) I...   Sep 25 2006, 02:05 PM
- - djellison   I totally agree and am utterly disgusted by the si...   Sep 24 2006, 06:01 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Sep 25 2006, 12:00 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 24 2006, 08:01 AM)...   Sep 25 2006, 06:10 PM
- - DonPMitchell   Personally I think the difference is that ESA is e...   Sep 25 2006, 12:33 PM
|- - ynyralmaen   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 25 2006, 02:33 ...   Sep 26 2006, 09:26 AM
- - nprev   Come to that, it's far too easy to forget that...   Sep 26 2006, 01:48 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (nprev @ Sep 26 2006, 01:48 AM) Com...   Sep 26 2006, 06:01 AM
- - djellison   Perhaps they could 'do an MGS' and image M...   Sep 26 2006, 07:08 AM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 26 2006, 03:08 AM)...   Sep 26 2006, 02:18 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Maybe this is one reason why the VEx team has been...   Oct 4 2006, 04:40 PM
- - AlexBlackwell   Doug's latest glog entry has a familiar title.   Oct 4 2006, 05:07 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 4 2006, 07:04 PM
- - ustrax   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 24 2006, 01:19 ...   Oct 4 2006, 07:08 PM
- - djellison   Ustrax - when was the last image from VEX? When di...   Oct 4 2006, 08:27 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 4 2006, 09:27 PM) ...   Oct 5 2006, 04:11 PM
- - Jyril   <annoyed sarcasm>What!? Do we have a pro...   Oct 4 2006, 09:57 PM
- - djellison   The NASA argument doesn't stand up. They hav...   Oct 5 2006, 04:16 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (djellison @ Oct 5 2006, 05:16 PM) ...   Oct 5 2006, 07:24 PM
- - DonPMitchell   I've also noticed that the ESA spends money an...   Oct 5 2006, 06:08 PM
- - remcook   come to think of it...I think European universitie...   Oct 5 2006, 07:33 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (remcook @ Oct 5 2006, 08:33 PM) wh...   Oct 5 2006, 07:43 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (ustrax @ Oct 5 2006, 07:43 PM) May...   Oct 5 2006, 08:14 PM
|- - ustrax   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Oct 5 2006, 09:14 PM) T...   Oct 5 2006, 08:36 PM
- - DonPMitchell   There is an official ESA equivalent to PDS, the Pl...   Oct 5 2006, 10:28 PM
|- - JRehling   [...]   Oct 5 2006, 10:40 PM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Oct 5 2006, 03:28 P...   Oct 5 2006, 11:10 PM
- - Jyril   Hard to believe, but ESA's website is even wor...   Oct 5 2006, 11:14 PM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Jyril @ Oct 5 2006, 04:14 PM) Hard...   Oct 6 2006, 05:25 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Oct 6 2006, 06:25 P...   Oct 6 2006, 06:09 PM
- - lyford   I hope I am not breaking any c*pyr*ght with this, ...   Oct 5 2006, 11:26 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (lyford @ Oct 6 2006, 12:26 AM) I n...   Oct 6 2006, 07:05 AM
- - hendric   Hey, maybe one of you Europeans can volunteer to m...   Oct 6 2006, 02:42 AM
- - Jyril   This is going a bit OT... The problem with Mircoso...   Oct 6 2006, 06:14 PM
- - DonPMitchell   There is just too much information on a vast site ...   Oct 6 2006, 06:57 PM
- - Jyril   Well, Wikipedia has a huge amount of information, ...   Oct 6 2006, 08:09 PM
- - DonPMitchell   Oh don't get me started about how many wrong s...   Oct 6 2006, 09:12 PM
|- - helvick   Don, I don't think we're that far apart o...   Oct 7 2006, 12:35 AM
|- - David   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Oct 6 2006, 09:12 P...   Oct 7 2006, 12:59 AM
||- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (David @ Oct 6 2006, 05:59 PM) If y...   Oct 7 2006, 05:29 AM
|- - Jyril   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Oct 7 2006, 12:12 A...   Oct 7 2006, 11:17 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Jyril @ Oct 7 2006, 04:17 AM) I wa...   Oct 7 2006, 06:14 PM
- - lyford   Make one!   Oct 7 2006, 06:46 PM


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