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Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science
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post Mar 26 2011, 09:38 PM
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The word is a relic of British social attitudes in the mid twentieth century. The ruling elite was educated almost exclusively in private schools each of which had its own peculiar schoolboy slang. Science was not among the branches of learning most highly valued in these institutions. Nevertheless the second world war and the new world it ushered in required people who could break a code or build a radar. The classically educated toffs (now there's another one) needed a handy word for these fixers.
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:23 PM
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While it would seem the exact etymology is different (From the Eton, boffin, meaning vocational loser) the social attitudes aren't that different... as Doug pointed out, we've got "geek."
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:36 AM
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This requires reinterpretation of so many conversations I've had and things I've read.


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post Mar 27 2011, 08:12 AM
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In an effort to help settle this very debate, the IAU recently held a conference to discuss adopting an official classification. Here's what they came up with:

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post Mar 27 2011, 10:10 AM
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Here's a book that might help clarify matters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Backroom-Boys-Secr...0420&sr=8-1

Covers a variety of topics including the UK space programme.
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post Mar 27 2011, 01:01 PM
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Since Betelgeuse has been brought up, does anyone know the correct way of saying "Betelgeuse"

I get irritated when its pronounced "beetlejuice". mad.gif

My understanding is Belt-ta-gus. Am I wrong?! blink.gif
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post Mar 27 2011, 02:16 PM
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I usually call it "Beetlejuice" smile.gif Habit.

Also heard it pronounced as "Bett-ell-gurz" and even "Beetlejuicy". Which is just... wrong.


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post Mar 27 2011, 02:18 PM
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Good question, Decep. I've never known, either.

Stu: laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Mar 27 2011, 02:29 PM
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Well, the first European version of the Arabic name yad al-jawz’ is the French Bételgeuse, pronounced Bay-tell-goose
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post Mar 27 2011, 04:39 PM
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I'm not really bothered by the various Betelgeuse pronunciations that I've heard but I've never heard it pronounced "Belt - ta - gus", that really doesn't sound right to me.

I pronounce it with a shorter initial "e" sound (like Bet) and the final part like "jews".


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post Mar 27 2011, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Mar 27 2011, 01:12 AM) *
the IAU recently held a conference to discuss adopting an official classification. Here's what they came up with:

Win.


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post Mar 27 2011, 05:36 PM
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bettle-jews
--or--
beetle-jews

I think.

The info box at Wikipedia lists the pronunciations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English
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post Apr 5 2011, 11:24 AM
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I just saw this headline from the AP.

"NASA: Mars rover, phone home after yearlong sleep."

And no she did not phone....sad.gif.

Grrrr.
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post Apr 5 2011, 12:21 PM
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(sigh)...prepare for bizarre questions about Mars & nuclear explosions from friends, family & neighbors, all. This is wrong on so many levels I don't wanna even think about it, but of course it's getting media coverage...Google News picked it up.


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post Apr 5 2011, 04:52 PM
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Well I'm glad I finally know why Mars is red!
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