Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Inaccuracy in reporting astronomy and science |
Mar 26 2011, 09:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
The word is a relic of British social attitudes in the mid twentieth century. The ruling elite was educated almost exclusively in private schools each of which had its own peculiar schoolboy slang. Science was not among the branches of learning most highly valued in these institutions. Nevertheless the second world war and the new world it ushered in required people who could break a code or build a radar. The classically educated toffs (now there's another one) needed a handy word for these fixers.
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Mar 26 2011, 11:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1582 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
While it would seem the exact etymology is different (From the Eton, boffin, meaning vocational loser) the social attitudes aren't that different... as Doug pointed out, we've got "geek."
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Mar 27 2011, 03:36 AM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
This requires reinterpretation of so many conversations I've had and things I've read.
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Mar 27 2011, 08:12 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
In an effort to help settle this very debate, the IAU recently held a conference to discuss adopting an official classification. Here's what they came up with:
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Mar 27 2011, 10:10 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Cornwall Member No.: 4697 |
Here's a book that might help clarify matters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Backroom-Boys-Secr...0420&sr=8-1 Covers a variety of topics including the UK space programme. |
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Mar 27 2011, 01:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1276 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 114 |
Since Betelgeuse has been brought up, does anyone know the correct way of saying "Betelgeuse"
I get irritated when its pronounced "beetlejuice". My understanding is Belt-ta-gus. Am I wrong?! |
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Mar 27 2011, 02:16 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
I usually call it "Beetlejuice" Habit.
Also heard it pronounced as "Bett-ell-gurz" and even "Beetlejuicy". Which is just... wrong. -------------------- |
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Mar 27 2011, 02:18 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Good question, Decep. I've never known, either.
Stu: -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Mar 27 2011, 02:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 723 Joined: 13-June 04 Member No.: 82 |
Well, the first European version of the Arabic name yad al-jawz’ is the French Bételgeuse, pronounced Bay-tell-goose
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Mar 27 2011, 04:39 PM
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Dublin Correspondent Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
I'm not really bothered by the various Betelgeuse pronunciations that I've heard but I've never heard it pronounced "Belt - ta - gus", that really doesn't sound right to me.
I pronounce it with a shorter initial "e" sound (like Bet) and the final part like "jews". |
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Mar 27 2011, 05:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
the IAU recently held a conference to discuss adopting an official classification. Here's what they came up with: Win. -------------------- If Occam had heard my theory, things would be very different now.
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Mar 27 2011, 05:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
bettle-jews
--or-- beetle-jews I think. The info box at Wikipedia lists the pronunciations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English |
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Apr 5 2011, 11:24 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
I just saw this headline from the AP.
"NASA: Mars rover, phone home after yearlong sleep." And no she did not phone..... Grrrr. |
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Apr 5 2011, 12:21 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8783 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
(sigh)...prepare for bizarre questions about Mars & nuclear explosions from friends, family & neighbors, all. This is wrong on so many levels I don't wanna even think about it, but of course it's getting media coverage...Google News picked it up.
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Apr 5 2011, 04:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 31-May 08 From: San Carlos, California, USA Member No.: 4168 |
Well I'm glad I finally know why Mars is red!
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