Martian Cartography |
  |
Martian Cartography |
 Aug 27 2009, 11:38 PM
Post
#31
|
|
|
Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1598 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530  |
Schiaparelli? Wasn't my first guess. Lowell was.
|
 |
 
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 12:25 AM
Post
#32
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10258 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
No, but from the same period as Schiaparelli - even the same opposition as the famous one that resulted in canali and satellites, I think.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 12:44 AM
Post
#33
|
|
 Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8790 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
WAG based on a half-memory: Herschel?
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 12:50 AM
Post
#34
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10258 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
You Doofus! No... He was 100 years before the opposition I just mentioned.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 12:53 AM
Post
#35
|
|
|
Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8790 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
 ...sorry, haven't been drinking enough lately!
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 02:16 AM
Post
#36
|
|
|
Newbie Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 22-September 08 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 4348 |
Hi Phil:
I think this might be Dawes' work. If I recall correctly, he was an English astronomer in the mid-19th century, and he named all the continents and seas he observed on Mars. Places like "Dawes' Continent", and "Dawes' Ocean"... Simon |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 02:20 AM
Post
#37
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Hmm. Flammarion? Looks similar, but different.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 02:51 AM
Post
#38
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Asaph Hall?
-------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 03:02 AM
Post
#39
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10258 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Simon is close... but Dawes was the observer, not the cartographer.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 03:19 AM
Post
#40
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Proctor, then? I wouldn't have guessed that.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 03:25 AM
Post
#41
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10258 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Excellent - now we have the cartographer, Richard Proctor. All we need now for the unveiling of the great Mars Bar is the publication. Who can track that down?
Proctor was criticised quite correctly for naming too many things after Dawes - including Dawes' Forked Bay, which was Schiaparelli's Sinus Meridiani. So he revised his naming scheme. And look at the map... where Schiaparelli had 'canali', he has rivers! Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 04:01 AM
Post
#42
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1598 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 27 2009, 10:25 PM)  where Schiaparelli had 'canali', he has rivers! Did these guys know how large Mars was? Would have been some wide rivers. |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 06:17 AM
Post
#43
|
|
|
Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8790 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Okay, an attempt at redemption: Proctor's Other Worlds Than Ours, 1870.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 11:21 AM
Post
#44
|
|
|
Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10258 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
No, the 'Other Worlds' map was his first, the one with the flawed nomenclature.
"Did these guys know how large Mars was? Would have been some wide rivers. " Not really - lines are not usually drawn with width to scale - look at the width of a highway on a road map of a continent. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
|
|
|
|
Aug 28 2009, 04:35 PM
Post
#45
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1598 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Aug 28 2009, 06:21 AM) "Did these guys know how large Mars was? Would have been some wide rivers. " Not really - lines are not usually drawn with width to scale - look at the width of a highway on a road map of a continent. Yeah. And I'm not saying they didn't lack the skepticism to consider that linear features could be lots of other things. It's just that when you look at a globe of the earth, and imagine it through a telescope, you won't see rivers. It would have been interesting to wonder what they expected Earth's albedo features to be. Were they expecting Amazon and Nile or even Red Sea in amongst water, brown land, green land, ice, and clouds? Might actually be interesting to get a few photos of Mars at opposition through similar or antique telescopes and say, this is about what they were looking at. Granted, the eyeball is a little better than a photo. |
|
|
|
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 10th November 2024 - 06:04 PM |
|
RULES AND GUIDELINES Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting. IMAGE COPYRIGHT |
OPINIONS AND MODERATION Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators. |
SUPPORT THE FORUM Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member. |
|
