Cool Helene images up |
Cool Helene images up |
Jul 21 2007, 11:55 AM
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Rover Driver Group: Members Posts: 1015 Joined: 4-March 04 Member No.: 47 |
Looking at the latest raws, expecting to see Titan, I saw this:
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/imag...iImageID=116647 That's pretty close! |
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Jul 21 2007, 12:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 914 Joined: 4-September 06 From: Boston Member No.: 1102 |
Best pictures to date. These were from 36,000 km, on October 23 we will an even closer encounter at 25,000 km.
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Jul 21 2007, 01:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 568 Joined: 20-April 05 From: Silesia Member No.: 299 |
Images of Titan and Helene are underexposed again. Starting from this image of Dione taken on June 18, 2007, images are mostly underexposed. Why ? What is wrong ?
-------------------- Free software for planetary science (including Cassini Image Viewer).
http://members.tripod.com/petermasek/marinerall.html |
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Jul 21 2007, 01:35 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14433 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Don't draw a conclusion on the exposure from the raw JPGS. More likely is a bad stretching algorythm during the processing from data to JPG. There are too many links in the chain to assume a dark JPG is indicative of anything wrong with the operation of the camera.
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Jul 21 2007, 02:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1619 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Bergerac - FR Member No.: 678 |
I want to know : how do they stretch images from Raw to Jpg? What is the reason? They can't simply convert the raw data to jpg without apply a logarithm?
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Jul 21 2007, 04:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
The great majority of Cassini's images have a 12 bit dynamic range whereas jpegs only have 8. There's also the fact low contrast targets such as Titan would be... well, low contrast without stretching. In a way, histogram stretching maximizes the amount of information present in the raw pages while having a neat side-effect of disallowing any meaningful analysis to everyone but the imaging team.
I second Doug's opinion the algorithm is messed up rather than a problem with the camera. It started around the time those T33 images were supposed to show up and never have (also that Kodak moment with Enceladus and Mimas in front of Saturn). -------------------- |
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Jul 21 2007, 05:20 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10192 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
This is going to be a fabulous stereo pair between the start and end of the sequence...
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jul 21 2007, 06:44 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10192 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
-------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jul 21 2007, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
Interesting how it has a much more cratered appearance than in previous coverage (which, admittedly was pretty unrevealing high phase).
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Jul 21 2007, 09:23 PM
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Lord Of The Uranian Rings Group: Members Posts: 798 Joined: 18-July 05 From: Plymouth, UK Member No.: 437 |
Phil's great stereo pair seems to show a massive crater at the top of the image. I wonder, is this the same feature that is prominent in the low-resolution Voyager picture?
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Jul 21 2007, 09:57 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10192 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Yes, I believe it is. Also seen in some other views in this thread:
http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=3082 Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jul 30 2007, 10:02 AM
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SewingMachine Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 27-September 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 510 |
This is in response to Emily's request for suggestions regarding the irregular satellite size comparison on PS weblog. Mimas is included for scale as the smallest of the (roughly) spherical icy moons. I picked images of Prometheus and Pan within the ring plane because they seem to have a bit more detail. A key is included for visitors. The image scale here is approximately 330 meters per pixel.
Rude Commentary: To put this politely, gosh, I sure hope they can get better views of Prometheus some time... -------------------- ...if you don't like my melody, i'll sing it in a major key, i'll sing it very happily. heavens! everybody's all aboard? let's take it back to that minor chord...
Exploitcorporations on Flickr (in progress) : https://www.flickr.com/photos/135024395@N07/ |
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Jul 30 2007, 10:41 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Australia Member No.: 547 |
EC, you da man! (figuratively speaking..) Your work never fails to impress!
I've never seen that image of Pan before, showing the same accumulation of fine grained ring material as does Atlas. Far from being a unique feature of Atlas, such could easily be common for large-ish moonlets embedded within, or skirting the edge of a dense ring system. I wonder if there are any high-res image sequences planned for Daphnis in the Keeler Gap? |
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Jul 30 2007, 11:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3648 Joined: 1-October 05 From: Croatia Member No.: 523 |
I've never seen that image of Pan before, showing the same accumulation of fine grained ring material as does Atlas. EC, am I right in assuming the dark band over Pan is actually the outer edge of the A ring in front of the moon and not actually a dark feature on the moon? -------------------- |
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Jul 30 2007, 02:28 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 19-October 05 Member No.: 532 |
Uhm, Pan appears to be too small in this wonderful rocks family portrait. The latest radii(km) appear to be
Atlas 22.8 19.0 9.6 Pan 17.6 17.3 11.5 Peter Thomas' latest figures as per the SPICE PCK kernel cpck_rock_19Apr2007_merged.tpc Pan is only marginally smaller than Atlas. Atlas is a little more than 1/3 the size of Prometheus and Pandora which seems about right in the portrait. |
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