Sol 3 and onwards - imaging |
Sol 3 and onwards - imaging |
May 29 2008, 04:21 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 317 |
This was mentioned in one of the press conferences (yesterdays I think) and the answer was that it was possible but they would concentrate on primary mission objectives first. And I agree with them, a lot of complicated things to do first! BTW, the black and white panorama is done, I think. full pano |
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May 29 2008, 04:29 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 5-October 06 Member No.: 1227 |
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May 29 2008, 04:39 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 28-May 08 Member No.: 4149 |
Quite enjoying the rawness of these new images! Makes me feel like I'm in command with everyone else trying to figure everything out.
Anyway, pull out your 3D glasses and enjoy this stereo image I chopped together. Brought back many memories. http://i30.tinypic.com/102pb35.jpg |
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May 29 2008, 04:44 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 317 |
Quite enjoying the rawness of these new images! Makes me feel like I'm in command with everyone else trying to figure everything out. Anyway, pull out your 3D glasses and enjoy this stereo image I chopped together. Brought back many memories. http://i30.tinypic.com/102pb35.jpg Any idea where I can find 3D glasses with the correct colours? I have red and blue glasses and blue and yellow/brown, but not red and green. |
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May 29 2008, 04:49 AM
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Member Group: Senior Member Posts: 136 Joined: 8-August 06 Member No.: 1022 |
Sadly, as I suspected, Heimdal is obscured by a rise in the plains east of the lander. Unless the crater's hazed out by the distance, as Goldstone is in some VL-2 pans. But the pedestal crater to the WNW is visible! Me, I'm a horizon kind of guy. -Tim. |
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May 29 2008, 04:54 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 26-May 06 Member No.: 790 |
the instruments on the mission are not even capable of detecting life when they do start operating. I've been wondering about that. Are they going to vaporize all the H2O they collect to analyze it for organic compounds? If I ran the zoo, I would definitely take a bit of ice, at least once, gently warm it to 5 degrees C or so, and turn the microscope loose on the liquid results. Long shot? Sure, but worth trying. Does anyone know these sorts of details about the science plan? and about what exactly the microsope is intended to examine? Mineral/crystal/etc. structures and (conceivably) oven-safe fossils only?? |
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May 29 2008, 04:55 AM
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The Insider Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 73 |
heh,.. when I played the file, my audio player's default visualisation module kicked in and produced this (it didn't fit onto one screen's width so I've crudely pasted chunks from two screenshots together to get the whole thing.) As scientific as a newpaper horoscope, of course but I notice the same harmonics (if that's what they are) show up in both visualisations though. EDIT: Hmmm, Doug's shot shows a curve after the "bounce", whilst mine shows a straight line. Logarithmic vs. linear vertical scale perhaps? Any mathematicians in the house? Ok, this is cool. I took the liberty of flipping the second half upside down to give a sense of continuity to the signal after it receded from the Mars Express. It's interesting to see the change in signal when Phoenix hit the atmosphere. |
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May 29 2008, 05:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Is that a "real sound" that we would listen if we were flying next to Phoenix? No. It's just the Doppler shift in radio waves between Phoenix and Mars Express. It would have been clearer if they had said "sounds of Phoenix's radio transmission" rather than "sounds of Phoenix". |
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May 29 2008, 05:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Any idea where I can find 3D glasses with the correct colours? I have red and blue glasses and red and yellow/brown, but not red and green. I got mine from work... Not sure whether mine are red/blue or red/green, but these work just fine for that anaglyph: http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~perry/IMG_0231.JPG -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
The Gish Bar Times - A Blog all about Jupiter's Moon Io |
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May 29 2008, 06:01 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 17-May 08 Member No.: 4114 |
These birds eye views really bring out the polygons:
http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_816.jpg http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images/gallery/lg_815.jpg |
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May 29 2008, 06:19 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 498 |
Sadly, as I suspected, Heimdal is obscured by a rise in the plains east of the lander. Unless the crater's hazed out by the distance, as Goldstone is in some VL-2 pans. But the pedestal crater to the WNW is visible! Me, I'm a horizon kind of guy. -Tim. Isn't that Heimdal at 130 degrees? |
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May 29 2008, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2228 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
The polygons are gorgeous, and are probably the largest observable geological structures in this area.
Any idea where I can find 3D glasses with the correct colours? I think that image is actually red/cyan. Your red/blue glasses should work reasonably well with those, as would red/green. I occasionally suffer from bouts of 3D blindness, but there seemed to be little 3D relief in that particular pair of images.
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I'm not a Space Fan, I'm a Space Exploration Enthusiast. |
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May 29 2008, 07:25 AM
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Dublin Correspondent Group: Admin Posts: 1799 Joined: 28-March 05 From: Celbridge, Ireland Member No.: 220 |
Some more questions for Emily (or anyone who can answer them here).
Exactly how icy does this area get during the winter? Does the area actually see a physical accumulation of CO2 ice on the surface and if so how deep does it get? How much Daily (Solly?) power were the solar panels expected to generate on Sol 0 and what is the expected amount of power they will generate at the end of the primary mission? What are the most temperature sensitive vital components of the lander? Once the onset of autumn and winter begin to bite and temperatures drop which systems are believed to be the ones that will force the mission to end? Are the resting locations of the heatshield and backshell\parachute debris closer to the lander than expected? |
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May 29 2008, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
Nice new pics.
For those of you waiting for me to repost filename corrected and zipped versions. My renaming program choked this morning trying to get it done for you before work, I'll try and sort the problem this evening (UK time) EDIT: Now updated - see my sig -------------------- |
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May 29 2008, 07:53 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10256 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
"Me, I'm a horizon kind of guy."
Yes, Tim, horizons are where it's at! An exaggerated relief view of this horizon would be interesting - I'm travelling, or I'd do it. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PDF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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