VL1 site horizon features with MRO picture, A tribute to Phil Stooke... |
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VL1 site horizon features with MRO picture, A tribute to Phil Stooke... |
 Jan 2 2007, 09:37 PM
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 Member  Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 19-February 05 From: France, close to Paris (& 5mn drive from Meudon Observatory) Member No.: 172  |
 Now you can more easily correlate the features between the MRO picture and the VL1 landscape with a 360° pan I just mosaicked to show you the local horizon without any protruding S/C parts above it...(Again lots of congratulations, Phil, for having discovered VL1's location long before it was spotted by MRO !) Enjoy ! 
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Jan 2 2007, 09:49 PM
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That is just the coolest darn thing. It's a brilliant idea. I could stare at that image all day. Thanks.
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Jan 2 2007, 11:16 PM
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Vikingmars, that is indeed neat to the nth power!
Just out of curiousity, did you colorize VL1 at all? It looks distinctly white with a tinge of blue in the pic.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jan 2 2007, 11:37 PM
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 The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5548 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
To quote the great man...
WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!!! That's stunning! 
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Jan 3 2007, 08:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 19-February 05 From: France, close to Paris (& 5mn drive from Meudon Observatory) Member No.: 172 |
QUOTE (nprev @ Jan 3 2007, 12:16 AM)  did you colorize VL1 at all? It looks distinctly white with a tinge of blue in the pic. Dear Nprev : no, the VL1 donut is just superimposed on the original "colour" MRO pic released by JPL. |
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Jan 3 2007, 09:10 AM
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Jan 3 2007, 01:43 PM
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Yes I cant but concur, that was clever vikingmars - merci!
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Jan 3 2007, 05:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 19-February 05 From: France, close to Paris (& 5mn drive from Meudon Observatory) Member No.: 172 |
Tim_Parker_VL1_2040_1_.pdf ( 257.51K )
Number of downloads: 260 ...and also a tribute to TIM PARKER !Peering through my documentation, I just discovered that, in 1999, Tim pinpointed right the VL1 location just several meters from the one determined by Phil Stooke ! Here is his paper (as a "pdf" file) Enjoy
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Jan 3 2007, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4586 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Let's put all this in perspective. Tim found this location using Viking images, after two decades with a false identification about 6 km to the west. Those Viking images could not resolve the lander - in fact they were so noisy they barely revealed the nearby craters, and Tim's identification was a very nice bit of work. Then MSSS used a MOC image to identify a small feature nearby as the actual lander. I just said - "no, it's not, it has to be over here". But both of us, me and MSSS, were just building on Tim's initial identification.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 4 2007, 07:53 AM
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I think a 3d-panorama would help a lot to identify ground features in the MRO image: does it exist?
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Jan 4 2007, 10:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 19-February 05 From: France, close to Paris (& 5mn drive from Meudon Observatory) Member No.: 172 |
Well... there is no topographic map currently available for the VL1 landing site that goes to the horizon. To help you find the features, here is the same "donut" pan, now with labels. Enjoy !
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Jan 5 2007, 01:39 AM
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Wow! ...thanks!
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Jan 5 2007, 01:53 AM
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VM, thanks again for this awesome work. I always wanted to know what was just beyond (and on) VL1's horizon...
Quick question, though. I remember that there was a nearly complete large crater (nicknamed 'Big Crater') visible on the horizon in some of the super-res images, complete with near & far rims. Is this in fact the crater located at about 5 o'clock from the lander? [EDIT: 700 posts...wow. Please forgive the verbosity... ]
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jan 5 2007, 08:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 19-February 05 From: France, close to Paris (& 5mn drive from Meudon Observatory) Member No.: 172 |
Dear Nprev, thanks.
"Big Crater" (referred also as "crater A" on papers by Morris & Jones, Tim Parker and Phil Stooke) is located at 8 o'clock. There are different namings that were used also for rocks. For example, boulder "e" was called "Volkswagen Rock" by some at the beginning of the mission and "Rhino Rock" by us at the very end (1981+)
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Jan 8 2007, 02:01 AM
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