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Apr 17 2008, 12:52 AM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Zond-5 and Zond-6 were both partial successes. Zond-5's biological experiments suceeded, Zond-6 partially depressurized and then crashed, killing all the creatures on board. However, Zond-5's camera failed after some test photography of earth, while Zond-6 succeeded in photographing the moon (and most of the film survived the crash).
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Apr 17 2008, 02:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 123 Joined: 21-February 05 Member No.: 175 |
(with all respects to Chuck Heston)
the first words spoken by humans on Mars in 40 years or so: "Get your hands off of me, you damn dirty ape!" On a more serious note, doing the Laika thing in this enlightened age would be nothing but a PR nightmare of the highest proportions. Wwaaayyy to much vodka consumed the night they dreamed up that one. |
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Apr 17 2008, 04:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
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Apr 17 2008, 07:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Forest of Dean Member No.: 617 |
That must have been around the same time NASA was putting cows in orbit. No no, I'm fine, it's just a touch of toothache... -------------------- --
Viva software libre! |
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Apr 17 2008, 08:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 557 |
Zond-5 and Zond-6 were both partial successes. But you're forgetting the real purpose of these probes. They were to test out the Soyuz circumlunar manned missions. From that point of view, Zond 5 was an almost complete success (the cosmonauts would have lived to tell the tale) and Zond 6 was... otherwise. |
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Apr 18 2008, 02:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 11-March 04 Member No.: 56 |
The Russians should have erected a monument to the turtles: those fine examples of Testudo sovietica beat the Americans to the Moon by 3 months!
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Apr 18 2008, 05:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
Tortoises of the Moon, UNITE!
-------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Apr 18 2008, 03:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 557 |
The article mentioned that 40 monkeys would be selected for studies, but nowhere did it say how many might be sent to Mars.
As an appropriate number, I would guess that the Russians might send ... 12. |
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Apr 18 2008, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1281 Joined: 18-December 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 124 |
With all this talk of tortoises in space, is anyone else thinking of Discworld?
(BTW, Doug, did you get to see Colour of Magic on SkyOne? Those of us across the pond are mighty jealous!) -------------------- Lyford Rome
"Zis is not nuts, zis is super-nuts!" Mathematician Richard Courant on viewing an Orion test |
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May 18 2008, 09:19 PM
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A few days ago I visited the Alamogordo museum of space history in New Mexico ( with the John Stapp air & space park ) and visited the grave stone of NASA's first space monkey HAM ( acronym for Holloman Aero Med ). I didn't realize HAM was buried at that site ( born in 1955 Cameroon, died in 1983 North Carolina Zoological Park ).
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May 18 2008, 11:44 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Didn't know poor old Ham was there now. I used to go out to Alamading-dong (Holloman AFB, actually) quite a bit during the late '80s...would have paid my respects.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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May 19 2008, 07:08 PM
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The stories of both HAM and ENOS became a bit morbid after the astrochimps died. When HAM died at the National Zoological Park in Washington DC in January 1983, his body was turned over to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, where the carcass was photographed and necropsied. It looks like that the skin was given to the Aerospace Museum in Washington DC for a mounted specimen and that the remainder of the carcass was given for burial at the International Space Hall of Fame at Alamogordo, more precise at the foot of the flag poles. It was John Stapp who dedicated the small memorial garden and bronze plaque during the burial ceremony in New Mexico…
More info in: Animals in Space: From Research Rockets to the Space Shuttle Series: Springer Praxis Books Subseries: Space Exploration Burgess, Colin, Dubbs, Chris 2007, Approx. 350 p., 160 illus., Softcover. ISBN: 0-387-36053-0 |
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May 20 2008, 12:14 PM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
I am glad that Ham has a memorial of some sort, in any case. Current research seems to indicate that chimps & hominids diverged evolutionarily not that long ago, and they are very self-aware creatures. It is proper to honor them.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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May 26 2008, 09:56 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 22-May 08 From: Loughborough Member No.: 4121 |
I guess if one of them does make it to that new world first, then it could claim to be a 21st century Christopher Colobus
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May 30 2008, 09:16 AM
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Well, here's the movie: http://www.spacechimpspower.com/
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