Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
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Getting Unstuck in West Valley |
Jul 9 2009, 06:34 PM
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Jul 9 2009, 07:39 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2741 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
What I wondered is whether the soil in Gusev crater would become harder and so easier to drive through during the martian winter? The question of the properties of dry soil as temperatures drop has already been addressed - see the entry on trying to drive at night in the extraction FAQ.
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Jul 11 2009, 12:08 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 6481 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Just out of curiosity, how long has it been since any of the wheels have been moved?
Reason I ask is that it might be interesting to take another look with the IDD & see if any of the disturbed soil has begun to settle a bit--or has blown away, for that matter. If the direction & intensity of the wind was favorable there might be a bit of a venturi effect under Spirit (though of course not enough to free her by excavating the wheels.) Could provide some more insight into the various materials' properties, if we're lucky. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 11 2009, 02:25 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: 18-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 3982 |
I think with the latest downlink all of the L2 images from the Calypso Pan are down in full. Someone want to check me on that?
Edit: Both L2 & R2 images are now down. Still waiting on L5 & L7. |
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Jul 11 2009, 06:12 AM
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Jul 12 2009, 03:39 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
Paolo, can you give us any info on the various test results so far? Anything look promising, or "Eww, that just didn't work at all"?
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Jul 13 2009, 04:11 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Malta Member No.: 741 |
I see that Spirit has been stuck around this area on Mars for quite some time now..would that explain the Ulysses and Calypso panorama terms being used following the concept of Ulysses being held on the island of OGYGIA(today island of Calypso) in Homer's famous ODyssey??I'm sure that Spirit will free herself just like Ulysses managed to set himself free from the spell of the nymph Calypso and continue on his voyage of discovery just like Homer had described it!
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Jul 13 2009, 05:14 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
Paolo, can you give us any info on the various test results so far? Anything look promising, or "Eww, that just didn't work at all"? I don't thnk it would be appropriate for me to discuss the results even because we are still evaluating the results. I hope you understand. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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Jul 13 2009, 05:49 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4168 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
I see that Spirit has been stuck around this area on Mars for quite some time now..would that explain the Ulysses and Calypso panorama terms being used following the concept of Ulysses being held on the island of OGYGIA(today island of Calypso) in Homer's famous ODyssey??I'm sure that Spirit will free herself just like Ulysses managed to set himself free from the spell of the nymph Calypso and continue on his voyage of discovery just like Homer had described it! Search for "Calypso" in this very same thread and you'll find the answer, whose first letter is "y". |
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Jul 13 2009, 09:32 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Malta Member No.: 741 |
That Mediterranean Island is my island!!Enjoy!
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Jul 13 2009, 12:09 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2423 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Canberra, Australia Member No.: 615 |
Meanwhile OnTopic...
OK, so far as we know up until a few days ago the Rover team have tried 4 or 5 of the first 11 driving maneuvers they want to test. 1) Straight forwards; 2) Straight backwards; 3) 'Crabwalk' - driving upslope with the wheels turned at 60 degrees to the right; 4) 'Crabwalk' - driving upslope with the wheels turned 20 degrees to the right; 5) 'Crabwalk' - driving downslope backwards with the wheels turned 60 degrees to the right; It's a fair bet that 6) will be: 6) 'Crabwalk' - driving downslope backwards with the wheels turned 20 degrees to the right; I'd guess that 7 thru 10 will be crabwalks with the wheels at 60 and 20 degrees left(?), and then 11(?) What do people think will be maneuvers 7 to 11? Then what techniques after that? Remember to read the Extraction FAQ to see what they have done, might try, can't do, won't do. |
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Jul 13 2009, 12:16 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Malta Member No.: 741 |
Sorry to seem to be sticking to the same topic but forgive my excitement but as I recall the Odyssey story had come up after naming Santorini at Opportunity's track at Meridiani...but I have to say the idea of the Calypso panorama is a brilliant idea...i believe the genius has been Ustrax!??right?
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Jul 13 2009, 12:47 PM
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Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Chairman Posts: 13250 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
I wonder if one technique might be tank-tracking for a rotation
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Jul 13 2009, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 6481 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
I thought that "tank mode" was already tried--briefly-- as soon as she got stuck. Doesn't mean it won't be tried again, of course.
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Jul 13 2009, 01:44 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: 29-September 06 From: Pasadena, CA - USA Member No.: 1200 |
I thought that "tank mode" was already tried--briefly-- as soon as she got stuck. Doesn't mean it won't be tried again, of course. We actually never tried true tank steering, but we tried a turn in place, which failed because it timed out. Paolo -------------------- Disclaimer: all opinions, ideas and information included here are my own,and should not be intended to represent opinion or policy of my employer.
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