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How far will NH pass by Pluto?, - and will it be possible to effect a meaningful course change?
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:16 PM
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So, from what I gather, NH will pass by Pluto at a speed of around 14 km/s. I know it won't be able to slow down in any way, and will continue into deep space afterwards, but is a substantial course change envisaged at Pluto, or will it fly by so far away that the course change will be negligible?

I realise that the instruments must be optimised for a pass at a certain distance, but what distance is that and could it possible by reduced with no ill effects?

It would be mindblowing if a low pass over Pluto could be planned so that NH will fly close by Charon as well, wouldn't it? - Or maybe even - to go really out on a limb - a few high-speed figure 8's around both bodies, before the probe continues on its merry way. smile.gif Would that even be physically possible?

At least I'm not suggesting aero-braking if Pluto turns out to have a tenuous atmosphere. blink.gif
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siravan
post Apr 17 2008, 01:35 AM
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Looking at the encounter image, it seems that the trajectory is designed such that at closest distance to Pluto, NH is essentially 180 degree off Charon. I guess the design has scarified imaging resolution for the chance of doing radio science during occlusions. Is this the main reason or are there other considerations that forced the trajectory to be where it is? Also, is it possible for Pluto to have any rings (vis-a-vis Rhea)? And if so, is there any planning to look for them (long exposures and such)?
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post Apr 17 2008, 05:53 AM
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To rephrase the original question:

Kuiper Belt Objects are really far apart. There's not much chance of an accidental close encounter with a KBO, but theoretically a juicy one might be discovered in time for a trajectory change to provide a targeted encounter. If such a discovery were to be made, could the trajectory be altered to point NH differently after the Pluto encounter?
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post Apr 18 2008, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (brellis @ Apr 17 2008, 03:53 PM) *
There's not much chance of an accidental close encounter with a KBO ... could the trajectory be altered to point NH differently after the Pluto encounter?

I recall reading somewhere (sorry memory lapse, cant recall where that was) that the search for KBOs will be focused to take place nearer to the Pluto encounter, because by then the KBO that could be reached would well be in a very small area of the sky around & beyond Pluto, guess near the 1 degree cone mentioned in an earlier post, since they move very slow as well.

Any trajectory adjustment will likely be using engine firing. Of the 3 criteria for a swing-by that I know of (orbital speed, mass and density), Pluto fares extremely bad in the first two.


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- Oersted   How far will NH pass by Pluto?   Apr 16 2008, 02:16 PM
- - djellison   QUOTE (Oersted @ Apr 16 2008, 03:16 PM) W...   Apr 16 2008, 02:32 PM
- - ugordan   QUOTE (Oersted @ Apr 16 2008, 04:16 PM) ....   Apr 16 2008, 02:38 PM
- - jamescanvin   NH trajectory through the Pluto system (from NH we...   Apr 16 2008, 02:50 PM
|- - john_s   Last fall we changed this slightly, updating the c...   Apr 16 2008, 02:58 PM
|- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (john_s @ Apr 16 2008, 03:58 PM) La...   Apr 16 2008, 03:03 PM
|- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Apr 16 2008, 04:03 PM...   Apr 16 2008, 03:04 PM
- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Oersted @ Apr 16 2008, 06:16 AM) O...   Apr 16 2008, 03:04 PM
|- - Oersted   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 16 2008, 05:0...   Apr 16 2008, 06:38 PM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (Oersted @ Apr 16 2008, 10:38 AM) W...   Apr 17 2008, 04:12 AM
- - jamescanvin   QUOTE (Oersted @ Apr 16 2008, 03:16 PM) b...   Apr 16 2008, 03:12 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (jamescanvin @ Apr 16 2008, 07:12 A...   Apr 16 2008, 06:44 PM
|- - ugordan   My ballpark calculation assuming the impact parame...   Apr 16 2008, 07:21 PM
- - jamescanvin   I hope Alan doesn't mind but here is that Powe...   Apr 16 2008, 03:21 PM
- - nprev   Kinda figured as much...it's not very large, a...   Apr 16 2008, 07:40 PM
|- - YesRushGen   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 16 2008, 02:40 PM) One...   Apr 17 2008, 01:41 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (YesRushGen @ Apr 17 2008, 06:41 AM...   Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 17 2008, 05:03 PM) Wel...   Apr 18 2008, 07:21 AM
- - siravan   Looking at the encounter image, it seems that the ...   Apr 17 2008, 01:35 AM
|- - brellis   To rephrase the original question: Kuiper Belt Ob...   Apr 17 2008, 05:53 AM
|- - dmuller   QUOTE (brellis @ Apr 17 2008, 03:53 PM) T...   Apr 18 2008, 09:40 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (brellis @ Apr 16 2008, 09:53 PM) I...   Apr 18 2008, 06:36 PM
- - mchan   The key word is "stable" orbit, meaning ...   Apr 17 2008, 05:31 AM
- - remcook   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 17 2008, 05:1...   Apr 17 2008, 10:44 AM
|- - Greg Hullender   QUOTE (remcook @ Apr 17 2008, 03:44 AM) T...   Apr 18 2008, 04:18 PM
- - tasp   Among several difficulties for the existence of a ...   Apr 17 2008, 02:11 PM


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