ROVER WHEELS: Monitoring changes over time, NOTE: Read back through the thread to avoid repeating misconceptions |
ROVER WHEELS: Monitoring changes over time, NOTE: Read back through the thread to avoid repeating misconceptions |
Mar 9 2014, 08:17 PM
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Mar 9 2014, 08:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 529 |
These are not the 'droids you are looking for, move along...
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Mar 9 2014, 08:54 PM
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Mar 11 2014, 03:30 PM
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May 19 2014, 09:08 PM
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SOL 631 lodged rock (another view).. didnt see any mention of this elsewhere or i wasnt paying attention..., perhaps it has dropped off by now ...unless its lodged in there whreel well!
EDIT: fell out sometime before sol635 |
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Jun 22 2014, 09:07 PM
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Jun 22 2014, 09:13 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Ouch. I noticed the last time I mapped wheel wear that the middle wheels appeared to be accumulating new tears more rapidly than the front ones.
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Jun 22 2014, 10:13 PM
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That has been a drive of about 500 meters; thus roughly extrapolated, we should be prepared to about 5 to 10 additional similar tears or holes till Murray Buttes - although we've always to look with precaution on extrapolations.
Not really frightening under normal circumstances; we'll have to get accustomed to it ... and keep the eyes open. |
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Jun 23 2014, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2920 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
In this case we can see that the place was already damaged so, I guess, it was "easily" removed. Actually, we can't see yet whether the missing part is torn inside the weel or has been lost. Do you think there is any change of loosing a torn part of a weel? If yes, we'll have to look closely in the rear direction to see if we can see it.
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Jun 23 2014, 09:58 AM
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The upper left fragment (in the image) is evidently torn inside. I didn't find immediate evidence yet, that this does hold for the lower right fragment, too. But the aluminium alloy should be sufficiently ductile to make it more likely, that no large fragment is lost.
A potentially lost fragment should behave similar to a pebble, cause some minor loss of weight of the rover, but without obvious implications to functionality. |
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Jun 23 2014, 10:05 AM
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I noticed the last time I mapped wheel wear that the middle wheels appeared to be accumulating new tears more rapidly than the front ones. A paper Performance comparison of rough-terrain robots—simulation and hardware has these diagrams of force on the wheels of a MER-type rocker-bogie design going over a step obstacle: At least in that case it looks like the middle wheel experiences the greatest forces & the front wheel has it the easiest. The peak force on the middle wheel is when the rear wheel climbs the step. -------------------- |
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Jun 23 2014, 03:14 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
I don't have access to that journal, unfortunately. That's a cool graph. Are the "front" wheels in this journal article on the bogie, or the rocker? I know that the rocker-bogie suspension system performs better bogie-first -- the JPL rovers are all built "backwards" so that if they get into trouble they're better-positioned to extricate themselves. But the graph is labeled "MER" so maybe it is rocker-first.
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Jun 23 2014, 03:40 PM
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That paper states
QUOTE Note that, contrary to the real MER, the front side of the simulation model was chosen at the bogie side
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Jun 23 2014, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1465 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Columbus OH USA Member No.: 13 |
Weird drive on sol 667--only 1.2m spread out over almost 2 hours. The speed plot shows it was in four equally-spaced bumps, and MASTCAM L and MAHLI took images of the wheels along the way. Worrying about the wheels has been officially deregulated.
It'd be interesting to see 4 images of a particular wheel combined to "unroll" it into a continuous ribbon showing the wear pattern. -------------------- |
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Jun 23 2014, 05:14 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
That's not weird, that's a standard wheel-imaging drive -- they do those every few hundred meters in order to monitor damage. They seem to be performing them on weekends for the most part. They recently made a tweak to their wheel-imaging routine: It used to be they took MAHLI images centered on each wheel (6 images), in 4 different positions. Now they are taking images of middle and rear wheels together (so only 4 images total), in 5 different positions, which gives them a more complete survey. They've also added Mastcam and MARDI documentation.
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