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InSight Surface Operations, 26 Nov 2018- 21 Dec 2022
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post Dec 28 2018, 09:53 PM
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The tether is only partly deployed, presumably to provide a worst case characterisation of vibration. The tether will be completely fed out and on the ground for operation.
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post Dec 30 2018, 03:22 AM
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A stereo pair of IDC images are now available on the InSight Raw image server.
They show the grapple positioned just to the side of SEIS.
Maybe to update the digital elevation map after SEIS was levelled? Or possibly to cross check data from the instruments inclinometers after levelling?
Sol 32 images link
EDIT: A single sol 32 ICC image came down later, the arm was no longer adjacent to SEIS and I can see no obvious change to the tether or SEIS comparing it to the sol 30 ICC image
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post Jan 2 2019, 09:50 AM
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Hi,

I probably missed some information about SEIS deployment, but...enlight me please - how far from the spacecraft was it placed? 1 meter? Two? Thanks in adv for information.

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post Jan 2 2019, 02:41 PM
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Some explanations on how they use the sundial to orientate SEIS by finding where North is +- 2°
https://www.seis-insight.eu/fr/actualites/4...e-nord-sur-mars


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post Jan 2 2019, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Station @ Jan 2 2019, 09:50 AM) *
Hi,

I probably missed some information about SEIS deployment, but...enlight me please - how far from the spacecraft was it placed? 1 meter? Two? Thanks in adv for information.

Maciej


1.8m, about the max they could reach.
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post Jan 2 2019, 10:04 PM
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With the tether being three meters in length, and the SEIS placed at full-IDA reach, it seems the remaining 0.9 meters was intended for slack that will be carefully arranged later in the process.

For a great visual sense of sensor placement we have Phil Stooke's map thread
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post Jan 2 2019, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (Station @ Jan 2 2019, 05:50 PM) *
I probably missed some information about SEIS deployment, ....

According to this release link

"The area where SEIS now rests is directly in front of the robotic arm (to ensure that the umbilical cord connecting the instrument to the undercarriage rests flat on the ground), and as far away as possible (1 , 65 meters) of the probe, so as to minimize disturbances. The speed with which the engineers and geologists chose this removal site is related to the leniency of the area where the probe landed on November 26th. With a very small slope (only 2 to 3 degrees of inclination) and a striking absence of pebbles, almost all of the terrain located south of the landing gear and within reach of the robotic arm was suitable for the deployment of the seismometer." (Google Translate)
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post Jan 3 2019, 12:44 AM
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Sol 35 images on the server (link), they show the grapple being placed at varying heights above the center of SEIS and the last image from ICC shows the arm removed from the scene.

If I had to guess.. they could have practising arm placements for accurate deployment of the wind and thermal shield (WTS) smile.gif If correct we may get to see the WTS chain mail skirt soon smile.gif Sun Dials and Chain Mail on Mars, some old school technology never gets old smile.gif

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post Jan 3 2019, 09:34 PM
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Sol 37 images are on the server (Link).
ICC frames show us the SEIS tether has been released from its storage box and is now on the ground smile.gif Here is a simple GIF of the before and after.

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post Jan 4 2019, 12:39 AM
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[quote name='PaulH51' post='243134' date='Jan 3 2019, 09:34 PM']Sol 37 images are on the server (Link).
ICC frames show us the SEIS tether has been released from its storage box and is now on the ground smile.gif Here is a simple GIF of the before and after.



Very cool, more visible progress.
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post Jan 4 2019, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (PaulH51 @ Jan 2 2019, 04:44 PM) *
<snipsnip> If correct we may get to see the WTS chain mail skirt soon smile.gif Sun Dials and Chain Mail on Mars, some old school technology never gets old smile.gif <snipsnip>

Wow.. until you mentioned it i thought it was just the skirt, so yes actual chain mail with a quite artfully designed platelet structure at that, to be fitted to our little seismometer battling dust devils on the planet of war, amazing!

I was quite surprised to read the following, as i'd interpreted Mars' winds to be ineffectual of much more than moving sand and dust around and perhaps rattling solar panels, but i guess with such good ground connection a passing dust devil could perhaps induce quite an impressive umbrella effect on the dome (now im wondering what the upper m/s limit of DD winds are):
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Despite the great care taken in its design, it is not impossible that violent gusts of wind or a dust devil might dislodge or even lift the [9.5 kg] dome, causing it to fly away. The shield has nonetheless been developed to withstand squalls of 60 m/s and should even be able to survive winds of 100 m/s.
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post Jan 5 2019, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (atomoid @ Jan 3 2019, 09:01 PM) *
a passing dust devil could perhaps induce quite an impressive umbrella effect on the dome (now im wondering what the upper m/s limit of DD winds are):


I find that pressure is a more intuitive measure than windspeed - roughly speaking the dynamic pressure of the circumferential winds (i.e. rho * V^2, ignoring a factor of 2) is the same magnitude as the pressure drop in the center of the vortex. This is true for cyclostrophic balance in rotating wind systems in general, on Earth or Mars.

Like most things, there are lots of small ones and a few big ones - dust devil pressure drops seem to follow a power law, with a cumulative slope of about -2 or so. Pathfinder and Phoenix observed one or a few devils a day with drops of 0.5 Pascals, a 5 Pascal drop would be expected to occur around 100x less often, but is still reasonable to expect. A 50 Pascal drop (~10% of the total atmospheric pressure of 700 Pa or so, 7 mbar) isnt realistic

Now, if the windshield on InSight weighs 9kg, call that 35 Newtons on Mars. It's what, 0.5m across? So maybe 0.2 m2 in area. So its weight per unit area is 170 Pascals. A 5 Pascal drop, or even a 25 Pascal drop, isnt going to budge it.

(I made a rather hokey extrapolation of this sort in considering deaths by dust devil in this paper (open access), discusses weight per unit area of barn doors etc... https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11214-016-0239-2 )
Terrestrial dust devils typically have a pressure drop of tens to a couple of hundred Pascals (say 0.5 to 2 mbar, or 0.1% of the total pressure. Hurricanes can have pressure drops of several tens of mbar, or thousands of Pascals)



QUOTE (atomoid @ Jan 3 2019, 09:01 PM) *
a passing dust devil could perhaps induce quite an impressive umbrella effect on the dome (now im wondering what the upper m/s limit of DD winds are):
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post Jan 8 2019, 02:02 AM
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Annotated and processed GIF that shows the release of the load shunt assembly on the SEIS cable service loop.
I used 2 images that were already roughly aligned and at similar LMST
I wondering if they will have to use the scoop to open the loop by tugging on the tether pinning mass?
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post Jan 8 2019, 07:30 AM
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Very nice!

I have been looking at distant features. Here are a few things which I think I have identified correctly. I am still thinking about some other things.

The distant ridge to the east is a wrinkle ridge 10 km east of the landing site.

Phil

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post Jan 8 2019, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (PaulH51 @ Jan 7 2019, 09:02 PM) *
I wondering if they will have to use the scoop to open the loop by tugging on the tether pinning mass?

You think there is an issue? I don't know what the change is supposed to be/do mechanically.
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