Pioneer spacecraft hardware - TRW |
Pioneer spacecraft hardware - TRW |
Aug 3 2008, 11:13 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 6-September 05 From: Paderborn, Germany Member No.: 484 |
Hello,
the only picture I've found about the thrusters of Pioneer, is located in this picture: It's only some art picture but the thrusters may look like the original ones. Hope that helps a bit. -------------------- --- Under Construction ---
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Aug 3 2008, 09:17 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 07 Member No.: 1662 |
Tx, but actually the thrusters are quite tiny and almost invisible at this scale... They are included in this block on each side but I have no close up shot to depict them correctly...
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Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Aug 6 2008, 03:28 PM
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Being the self-proclaimed UMSF photo-librarian I have to keep coming up with Pioneer 10 photos
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Aug 6 2008, 04:27 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 07 Member No.: 1662 |
Being the self-proclaimed UMSF photo-librarian I have to keep coming up with Pioneer 10 photos Nice, another unknown photo! Unfortunately this one is also too general... To have a better idea of what could be better on my model, you can download the current stage Here (Pioneer link). The thrusters are not visible and some foil has been removed to let the instrument visible (this can change if necessary)... Be free to let me know what I can do to make it better! |
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Aug 6 2008, 09:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 30-January 05 Member No.: 162 |
{Grasping at straws here}
Would anyone know if 'accurate' source images were used in the model Pioneer spacecraft shown in one of those Star Trek movies ? (Not 'V-ger', a Pioneer craft was shown being blasted by Romuloids or some such, and as I recall the craft was shown in close up in when it was blasted) If your not embarrassed to use a print of a sci-fi movie for source info on Pioneer thrusters, might be worthwhile checking. IIRC, V-ger was portrayed minus some thermal blankets. If Hollywood used original pics of Pioneer for the movie model it might be something to check on. Especially if you already have the DVD on hand and can single frame thru the scene. Sorry I don't recall exactly which movie it was and there are rather several of them . . . |
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Aug 7 2008, 01:23 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8785 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Well, hoping to assist in this effort (and also help out poor Phil!) I found this:
Might not be much help (esp. because the spacecraft is still under construction here), but it's the most detail I've seen. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Aug 7 2008, 07:37 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 07 Member No.: 1662 |
Well, hoping to assist in this effort (and also help out poor Phil!) I found this... Yep, actually this is also the better photo I've seen so far; it's where we can see part of the thrusters (holes in the black block) but my problem is those on other axis. I don't know exactly where they are... |
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Aug 7 2008, 09:27 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 6-September 05 From: Paderborn, Germany Member No.: 484 |
@tasp
The Movie was: Star Trek V - The final frontier The Pioneer model used there, seems to be very accurate in my opinion. but the thrusters are not visible in that scene, because the spacecraft is shown from it's HGA side. The klingon ship then fires it's disruptors on the spacecraft and then it tumbles very fast -> No chance to see the thrusters in detail. -------------------- --- Under Construction ---
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Aug 7 2008, 03:16 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 8-November 06 From: Indiana, USA Member No.: 1337 |
Would the Pioneer H spacecraft that hangs in the Milestones of Flight Gallery at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. have accurate thrusters for your use? I have a few shots of it somewhere around here. I am sure that one of us will find himself or herself in that museum and willing to take a few close-up digital images of the thrusters.
Just do not fall while leaning over the balcony trying to get the perfect shot. |
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Aug 7 2008, 04:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 27-January 07 Member No.: 1662 |
Would the Pioneer H spacecraft that hangs in the Milestones of Flight Gallery at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. have accurate thrusters for your use? I have a few shots of it somewhere around here. I am sure that one of us will find himself or herself in that museum and willing to take a few close-up digital images of the thrusters. Just do not fall while leaning over the balcony trying to get the perfect shot. That would be wonderful! One of the good fellow of the Celestia community have done the same last year when I was modeling Voyager. You probably know the result and I must say I'm quite happy with this model... |
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Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Aug 7 2008, 06:05 PM
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In fact, I'm working on an article to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the Pioneer 10 - Jupiter flyby of December 1973. The article will be illustrated with seldom seen photographs, which I'm keeping off a bit for the moment, but I can share one "specially in preview" for UMSF:
the other Phill |
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Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Aug 7 2008, 06:09 PM
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I guess everybody noted in the photo above, how the Frank Drake/Carl Sagan Pioneer Plaque is attached to the frame with the drawing inwards in order to protect it from micro-meteorites. Here's one more photo, but I'll have to keep the rest for the UMSF photo of the month topic over at the "EVA & Misc" part of the UMSF forum:
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Aug 11 2008, 09:11 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14434 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Aug 11 2008, 01:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 23-October 04 From: Greensboro, NC USA Member No.: 103 |
Here are links to the Pioneer on display at the National Air and Space Museum. Not a lot of detail, but maybe it helps.
Picture 1 Picture 2 Picture in book -------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Aug 12 2008, 02:43 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8785 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Hopefully not OT, but just what the heck is that cutout in the parabolic dish for? My best guess is that it's there for the thruster to provide pitch control without eroding the dish or introducing an opposing torque?
-------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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