Juno perijove 8, September 1, 2017 |
Juno perijove 8, September 1, 2017 |
Aug 21 2017, 09:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2346 Joined: 7-December 12 Member No.: 6780 |
It's time to open a Perijove-8 thread. Only a little more than two days are left for voting. For this perijove pass, JunoCam is scheduled to use more memory than during any previous perijove pass. Therefore, we have the best conditions to collect a considerable number of images, and images of good quality.
One of my votes went to an image near the equator, in order to give the ops team the opportunity to take a lossless image from very close up. In previous perijoves, these very close ups suffered a bit from lossy compression. This time, we may have one of the rare chances to find out, whether subtle small features are present, but escaped notice due to high compression rates. My other votes are for the subpolar regions with the fascinating FFRs. But I don't make specific recommendations, since I'm hoping for a full latitude coverage in good quality. Besides their science value, such a sequence will be a good basis for a pole to pole animation. I'm also curious, whether we can learn more about the polar regions. These images are scheduled in any case. Besides low TDI images, I'm hoping for some high TDI images in order to get high S/N for the circumpolar storm systems. For Perijove-8, we'll get approach and departure images for a global map. So close to solar conjunction, those are of more interest than in times with good observational conditions from Earth. Unfortunately, during Perijove-9, obtaining a global map will be much harder, if possible at all. And as a special bonus, an image if Io is scheduled for PJ-08. My time for processing these images is very restricted in September. But I'll try to cover the full suite of close-ups as soon as the raws become available, nevertheless. |
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Aug 24 2017, 02:19 AM
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Curious question: when they say that this is the "last vote", does it mean what I think it means?
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Aug 24 2017, 02:24 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
I didn't see anything about a last vote. I did see this:
Juno's orbit around Jupiter is evolving. This is the last full opportunity to image Jupiter from 5 days out to 5 days after perijove. We will want to take advantage of this last chance for continuity at every latitude. Pretty sure that they wouldn't announce EOM like that anyhow. -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Aug 24 2017, 10:14 AM
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Aug 24 2017, 02:25 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
This may have something to do with the fact that the JunoCam specs call for it to survive only the first eight orbits. Everything beyond that is a bonus.
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Aug 24 2017, 05:13 PM
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This may have something to do with the fact that the JunoCam specs call for it to survive only the first eight orbits. Everything beyond that is a bonus. Sorry for the confusion! This will be the last time we select Points of Interest to image based on a public vote. In the near term (PJ9 and PJ10) it is because Jupiter is too close to the sun for earth-based observers to see it, and we won't be able to acquire a marble movie because of the orientation of Juno's orbit. After PJ10 the orbit has moved around such that the geometry will be less intuitive and thus voting would be more complicated. At this moment we are discussing how to replace voting with something else. But we will continue imaging!! |
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Aug 25 2017, 12:55 AM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Sorry for the confusion! This will be the last time we select Points of Interest to image based on a public vote. In the near term (PJ9 and PJ10) it is because Jupiter is too close to the sun for earth-based observers to see it, and we won't be able to acquire a marble movie because of the orientation of Juno's orbit. After PJ10 the orbit has moved around such that the geometry will be less intuitive and thus voting would be more complicated. At this moment we are discussing how to replace voting with something else. But we will continue imaging!! Will there be any distant moon encounters in upcoming orbits? I remember your earlier piece about that, but it was based on the planned orbit. -------------------- |
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Aug 25 2017, 12:28 PM
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For the small team, there is currently a very high work load with preparing the command sequence for PJ-08, defining a possible extension for the missionjuno website, and preparing talks for EPSC2017. During PJ-08, Io will be imaged.
I guess, that next week, someone might have time to look up distant moon encounters during future orbits. |
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Aug 25 2017, 02:46 PM
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Will there be any distant moon encounters in upcoming orbits? There's a distant moon encounter on every orbit, for suitable definition of "distant". Or were you talking about the outer non-galilean moons? A quick non-official survey to early 2021 shows closest approaches of 172K km to Io, 146K to Europa, 109K to Ganymede, and 678K to Callisto. None of these are close enough to be especially wonderful IMHO. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Aug 25 2017, 04:12 PM
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After PJ10 the orbit has moved around such that the geometry will be less intuitive and thus voting would be more complicated. To expand on this a little, remember that Juno is solar-powered and so its solar panels must always face the sun (approximately), and Junocam is pointed 90 degrees away from the sun line. In the original mission plan, the orbit was roughly over the terminator over the entire course of the mission, so Junocam was pointed at the planet for part of every spin. Now that the mission is going to last so much longer, Jupiter moves around the sun much more, and the orbit (which is fixed in inertial space, more or less) drifts away from the terminator. If you consider the case when the orbit is 90 degrees from the terminator, Junocam never sees the planet at all for much of a perijove pass. All of this is complicated by the slightly different orientations that are used (Earth-pointing, normal to the orbit plane, etc.) And Juno can go off-sun and run on batteries for a while, and this will likely be done for some orbits. But all of these scenarios are much more complex than what the public targeting software was designed to handle, so we are still evaluating what we can do within the constraints. Only partly in jest, I suggested at one point that we let the public figure out what might be visible from the available SPICE kernels and then let them vote on that. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Aug 26 2017, 10:19 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
Only partly in jest, I suggested at one point that we let the public figure out what might be visible from the available SPICE kernels and then let them vote on that. Sounds like a challenge that several people here might be interested in. Any takers? -------------------- A few will take this knowledge and use this power of a dream realized as a force for change, an impetus for further discovery to make less ancient dreams real.
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Sep 4 2017, 09:31 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 06:46 AM
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Perijove-08 RGB drafts, approach and close-ups. This version is without trajectory nor shape model, but I did some preliminary calibration for the start of the approach sequence.
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Sep 5 2017, 10:05 AM
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Here is a quick process of Gerald's first pass at the data.
*update* This looks like a particularly beautiful sequence and I can't wait to see everyone's work. -------------------- |
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Sep 5 2017, 12:31 PM
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Just beautiful !
Can't wait to watch whether we've got to see Io this time. -------------------- |
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Sep 5 2017, 01:41 PM
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Perijove 08, images #105, #107, and #108:
Those are JPG versions of the files I uploaded the last almost two hours to missionjuno. Before this, I spent some time to upload on junocam.pictures. Those are the full, uncropped images, for those who can't wait the next few minutes, until I'll have uploaded the other images to UMSF. I don't even try to describe in words, how fantastic theses images are. Two of them are preliminary, since they aren't completely free of repetitive camera artifacts; the rather conservative patching algorithm didn't find sufficiently redundant data to patch the spots; at some point later, I may extend the patching algorithm for these rare cases. |
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Sep 5 2017, 01:43 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:44 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:45 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:47 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:49 PM
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#113, with some remaining repetitive artifacts, I'll need to work on:
This dark ellipse isn't a processing artifact, but the shadow of a moon: I didn't find out the shadow of which moon. With the "Eyes on Juno" simulation, I ruled out all four Galileans. There are three possible explanations: 1. I made a mistake by using the simulation. 2. The simulation is inaccurate. 3. It's the shadow of Amalthea. Is there anyone here, who is able to find out, which moon cast the shadow? |
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Sep 5 2017, 01:56 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:58 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 01:59 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:00 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:01 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:03 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:05 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:07 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:09 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 02:11 PM
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Wow Gerald...just fantastic. I'm rolling up my sleeves...
Isn't that artifact a moon shadow? Looks like it! *update* You figured it out! -------------------- |
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Sep 5 2017, 08:14 PM
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Sep 6 2017, 01:00 AM
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BTW, note that image 114 ("Collision of colours"/"Sharp edge") was taken in lossless compression mode; several people had asked if images near PJ were being degraded by lossy compression. I'd be curious to hear if people thought it made a significant difference.
-------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Sep 6 2017, 02:58 AM
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I’m astonished by your work gerald, here is a quick edit I made earlier tonight. Enjoy!
Link to full res |
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Sep 6 2017, 03:25 AM
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Sep 6 2017, 12:56 PM
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BTW, note that image 114 ("Collision of colours"/"Sharp edge") was taken in lossless compression mode; several people had asked if images near PJ were being degraded by lossy compression. I'd be curious to hear if people thought it made a significant difference. I'm among these people, and this is why: Both processed in a similar way, hipassed and stretched linearly. Some scientifically interesting features are about the same size as the DCT artifacts. But I'm aware of the limited storage. So, we need to make a decision between coverage and subtle detail. @Gabriel: Wonderful! And also Johann Guillon: I'm learning, that there is always space for improvements. With each round we are going to be a little better. |
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Sep 6 2017, 03:28 PM
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Here is a 19 frame PJ08 sequence based on Gerald's source...
11 Megapixel 43 Megapixel 173 Megapixel 693 Megapixel -------------------- |
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Sep 6 2017, 03:50 PM
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What this helped me realize is that the programs I use to generate moon location predictions do not include Amalthea. The big ~7 of Saturn and big 5 of Uranus are pretty standard, but the Jupiter ephemeris programs I use all include the Galileans and nothing else. But I found this one:
https://pds-rings.seti.org And here is the simulated view during the last Juno encounter. Amalthea is dead center. It's the culprit. Also, the smaller moons would not cover the Sun as seen from Jupiter, and therefore wouldn't generate an umbra, only a penumbra. Amalthea doesn't cover it completely, either. The day after the eclipse, someone asked me if there are any other cases of moons that just cover the Sun as seen from their planet, and there are some close candidates, Callisto being the closest, but none (known) so close as the Moon seen from Earth. This also helped me realize that Thebe is pretty big – almost half the size of Amalthea. Metis and Adrastea are much smaller. |
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Sep 6 2017, 04:33 PM
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Sep 7 2017, 02:01 PM
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Sep 7 2017, 08:47 PM
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Interplanetary Dumpster Diver Group: Admin Posts: 4404 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Powell, TN Member No.: 33 |
Just beautiful ! Can't wait to watch whether we've got to see Io this time. Yes, we got a nice peek at Io. -------------------- |
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Sep 7 2017, 09:03 PM
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Sep 7 2017, 09:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Thankee.
Here is a portrait of PJ08_124 using Gerald's source... Upscaled to 36 Megapixel & processed. Here is a processed detail from PJ08_110... -------------------- |
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Sep 8 2017, 12:00 AM
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I don't know when we got conclusive evidence that we are seeing relief in the cloud shadows, but we definitely have by now. Little storm heads all over the place.
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Sep 8 2017, 04:19 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10162 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Great pictures everyone!
I can't be absolutely certain yet, but I think these are the features we are seeing in the Io image: (strictly speaking we are seeing large albedo features around those paterae, not the paterae themselves) Large changes in surface features might be detectable if this is compared with older images. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Sep 8 2017, 04:31 PM
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Here's an image to compare with the Juno view, almost the correct orientation. It's rendered, not an original image.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Sep 8 2017, 06:50 PM
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Sep 9 2017, 07:46 PM
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Sep 12 2017, 05:30 AM
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125-fold Perijove-08 animation on Youtube.
MP4 video, single overlapping scenes, and stills zipped for download. Actually, except the first and the last scene, I've rendered each scene twice, based on two consecutive raws. The stills are JPG, but should be in good quality. PNG would have been too large, regarding upload time and volume. Note, that the stills of consecutive scenes overlap by one still. In order to obtain a seamless movie, skip the first frame of each scene, except the first scene. However, for frame interpolation you might need the first respective still of each scene. |
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Sep 12 2017, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for sharing these Gerald, there is so much to see in this perijove pass! You've done a grand job blending the different images together also. For me, the only 'issue' is the snapping of the camera path, although this is much less problematic now that the images have smooth blending.
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Sep 15 2017, 05:51 PM
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I shared Gerald's PJ08 sequence over on Twitter and the 150dpi 11m x 2m image was actually printed out to 8.5m x 1.3m fabric!
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Sep 16 2017, 09:59 PM
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Here are some upscaled, processed & retimed clips from Gerald's PJ08 animation. They are still works in progress but they do feature a new re-timing method which reduces the appearance of the stepping issue when the animation switches between projected textures. The nested clips are 3 levels deep and the motion vector calculation never has to synthesize more than one frame each time. The previous solution was not nested and the software had to guess up to 10 frames which gave rise to motion artifacts.
This clip features the transition between PJ08 121 & 122 PJ08 108 - 109 -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2017, 01:57 PM
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I shared Gerald's PJ08 sequence over on Twitter and the 150dpi 11m x 2m image was actually printed out to 8.5m x 1.3m fabric! Tweet thread Awesome... so where is it hanging? |
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Sep 18 2017, 05:49 PM
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It's hanging in Lund, Sweden.
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Sep 18 2017, 10:42 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
After making a few improvements to my Juno-related software I now at last have some processed PJ8 stuff. This is from the PJ8_118 data, first approximately true color/contrast versions:
And the enhanced versions: A subset of the relevant metadata: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-09-01T22:03:23.474 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 8 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017244_08C00118_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 12143.0 km SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = -28.5406 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 329.8497 TITLE = POI's: Dalmatian Zone, Eye of Odin Resolution at nadir: ~8.2 km/pixel |
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Sep 20 2017, 10:07 AM
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Sep 22 2017, 10:59 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
BTW, note that image 114 ("Collision of colours"/"Sharp edge") was taken in lossless compression mode; several people had asked if images near PJ were being degraded by lossy compression. I'd be curious to hear if people thought it made a significant difference. Yes, this makes a significant difference in low contrast areas. Here is a heavily processed image showing the area near the nadir in PJ8_114: I was able to apply a more severe contrast stretch and unsharp mask than I usually do - and without having to worry about compression artifacts. This is a good thing because this is a lower contrast image than most of the Juno images. In a 'normally' compressed image the low contrast regions would have a 'contoured' appearance and/or squares of uniform (or near uniform) brightness and color would be obvious (Gerald posted an example earlier). The lower part of the image is more heavily processed than the upper part since the contrast there is lower in the original data. The difference from ICT compressed images is visually biggest in the blue channel - it is darker than R/G and frequently looks rather uniform or even noisy in ICT compressed images (it has even occurred to me to try to generate synthetic blue images by combining low frequency brightness variations from the blue channel with high frequency information from the green channel). Would it be possible to generate a version of the raw image showing what it would have looked like with typical lossy compression parameters? If this is possible I would be interested in applying the same processing to that version of the image as I did in the image above. By the way I have noticed one minor issue with all of the very high resolution images I have processed (I haven't processed many of these though). Here is an example: There are very narrow gaps between the framelets. This only occurs near the nadir and only in the red channel. I don't think this is an error in my processing. It's easy to fill these gaps and they are very narrow so I consider this a minor issue. |
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Sep 22 2017, 11:16 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
And here are two more images processed from PJ8_114. They show the northern and southern limb:
I processed these images more heavily than I usually do, both because of the low contrast in most of the areas covered by PJ8_114 and also because of the lossless compression. The image at left is especially interesting and appears to show long, narrow and elevated clouds plus associated cloud shadows and vertical relief near the horizon. And here are approximately true color/contrast versions of all three images. The last one isn't exactly impressive and reminds me of Saturn because of the low contrast. I suspect the generally low contrast and fuzziness of these images is mainly because the contrast really is lower here than it is farther from the equator; if this is correct the very high resolution (~2.3 km/pixel at the nadir) is not the main reason for the low contrast. And the associated metadata: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-09-01T21:49:21.459 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 8 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017244_08C00114_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 3472.2 km SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = 10.1385 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 319.5073 TITLE = POI's: Collision of colours, Sharp edge Resolution at nadir: ~2.3 km/pixel |
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Sep 23 2017, 01:32 AM
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Sep 23 2017, 10:17 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Here is an image from the departure sequence:
This is the best view of the Great Red Spot from the departure sequence. I processed it mainly as a 'sanity check' to confirm that my color processing (still) results in global color that looks about right. This is image PJ8_161 from the departure sequence. North is up. The image was obtained on 2017-09-02 07:30:25.957 when Juno was about 800,000 km from Jupiter's center. |
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Sep 24 2017, 12:00 AM
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Nice to see these realistically processed views. One fine point is that with such high resolution we might be able to resolve a region along the limb where a high clear portion of the atmosphere would produce a thin blue layer due to Rayleigh scattering. Is the limb fully shown in these images?
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Oct 1 2017, 12:43 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
The limb is not fully shown. The images are processed by creating a simple cylindrical map and then using the map to render an image. This 'truncates' the limb near the 1 bar level. That said, I suspect the resolution at the limb isn't higher in the JunoCam images than in many of the Voyager images since the resolution at the limb is much lower than at the nadir (I haven't computed the exact resolution at the limb though).
I have experimented a bit with creating JunoCam color composites showing the limb but the results aren't very interesting. The best processed Voyager image I know of showing the limb is this one from Voyager 1 and there is also a Voyager 2 mosaic. These are also probably the highest resolution color images showing blue sky at the limb that can be processed from the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 data. |
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Oct 6 2017, 07:51 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Image PJ8_110, approximately true color/contrast:
And with enhanced color and contrast. The effects of the solar illumination have been removed: Lots of cloud shadows are visible, especially in the 'central' image (the one where Jupiter's limb isn't visible). Possible vertical relief can also be seen at various locations. And the relevant metadata: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-09-01T21:37:50.343 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 8 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017244_08C00110_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 9838.0 SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = 41.77 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 310.6919 TITLE = POI: AB Territory Resolution at nadir: ~6.6 km/pixel |
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Oct 7 2017, 08:28 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
The central image in the above post has some of the best examples of direct imaging of (probable) cloud elevation differences that I have seen in images of Jupiter. Here is an enlarged crop from the image with some annotations:
The sun illuminates the clouds from the west (left) in this image. Keeping this in mind it's looking very much like we are seeing 'topography' at various locations, in particular around the vortex left of center: A: Clearly defined 'valleys'. B: More subtle 'valleys' than in A. C: Elevated and elongated high altitude 'walls' of clouds that are apparently roughly parallel to the wind direction around the vortex. D: Elevated clouds that have a more irregular shape than the clouds in C. There are also some some subtle indications that narrower and subtle 'valleys' and 'ridges' may spiral into the vortex toward its center. It is possible that these features are due to clouds of different color/brightness and not due to altitude differences. However, looking at the image, altitude differences look to me like the obvious (and more likely) explanation. |
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Oct 16 2017, 09:52 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Image PJ8_124, true color/contrast version and an enhanced version:
In the enhanced version the effects of global illumination have been removed. This reveals various details in the dimly lit areas near the terminator and near the south pole. And an orthographic view showing the south pole: A latitude/longitude grid is included. This reveals the location of Jupiter's south pole. It's remarkable how different Jupiter's polar areas are from Saturn's. They look much more irregular and chaotic, the belt/zone structure breaks down and in particular there is no vortex centered on Jupiter's pole as in Saturn's case. Another interesting feature is the relatively narrow, curved band of haze (?) not far from the pole. A subset of the metadata associated with the original data: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-09-01T22:34:02.788 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 8 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017244_08C00124_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 60546.9 km SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = -71.5392 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 355.0833 TITLE = POI: South Polar region Resolution at nadir: ~40 km/pixel |
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Oct 18 2017, 06:20 PM
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John Rogers (BAA) posted his detailed and interesting PJ08 report.
Note, that global maps will be increasingly difficult to obtain for the next perijoves, and likely impossible at some point. |
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Oct 19 2017, 03:15 AM
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Jupiter's south pole is a "vortex crystal" with a stable pentagonal arrangement of cyclones: https://twitter.com/jtuttlekeane/status/920409321246199814
Work by Fachreddin Tabataba-Vakili. You can see part of the pentagon clearly in Bjorn's polar projection. -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Oct 19 2017, 09:43 AM
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I doubt, that these things are cleared for public release as of yet.
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Oct 19 2017, 02:44 PM
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I doubt, that these things are cleared for public release as of yet. If you don't want to release something, then don't stand up at a public conference and present it. There's a DPS abstract online for this, although it has some coy language: "These observations reveal a turbulent environment with an unexpected structure of cyclonic polar vortices." -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Oct 19 2017, 03:57 PM
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After some more investigation, I think, that we are on the safe side of the grey area, as long as we don't comment publicly on the contents of the tweets.
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Oct 19 2017, 04:04 PM
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After some more investigation, I think, that we are on the safe side of the grey area... You mean "you are". My name's not on the abstract. -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Oct 19 2017, 04:16 PM
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You are in Candy's team. Without your camera neither Candy's nor my name would be on the abstract, if it could have been written at all.
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Oct 23 2017, 11:18 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Yet another collection of images, this is from PJ8_111 (approximately true color/contrast):
And a version with enhanced contrast and color. The effects of global illumination have been removed: The subspacecraft latitude is ~36 degrees north. Areas around this latitude are particularly photogenic in the JunoCam imagery with lots of cloud shadows, small vortices, various colors, vertical relief etc. For example, there are also these images from PJ6 where the subpscecraft latitude is similar (there are several more versions processed from this particular data set in the PJ6 thread). Finally a subset of the metadata: IMAGE_TIME = 2017-09-01T21:40:20.749 MISSION_PHASE_NAME = PERIJOVE 8 PRODUCT_ID = JNCE_2017244_08C00111_V01 SPACECRAFT_ALTITUDE = 7545.3 km SPACECRAFT_NAME = JUNO SUB_SPACECRAFT_LATITUDE = 35.6148 SUB_SPACECRAFT_LONGITUDE = 312.671 TITLE = POI: Turbulent sector of the NNTB Resolution at nadir: ~5.1 km/pixel |
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Nov 5 2017, 09:15 PM
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My PJ08 approach movie. PJ08 Approach Movie Has a number of shadows (or maybe sensor artifacts, I haven't investigated yet).
PJ08 departure movie. PJ08 Departure Movie Coloration along edges due to imperfections in my camera model. |
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Dec 18 2017, 05:15 AM
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Dec 27 2017, 04:43 PM
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Update to PJ08_123 [G.Eichstadt]
I've arrived at a new process which means I'll be revisiting some of the older perijove portraits in the coming weeks, time permitting. -------------------- |
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Mar 8 2018, 02:27 AM
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Apr 13 2018, 04:47 PM
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Apr 16 2018, 12:02 AM
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Apr 16 2018, 04:02 AM
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Check out the little red spot in the upper left of the first of those.
I guess this means the altitude is quite high, meaning a very high pressure and anticyclonic nature to that storm despite its relatively small size. I'd like to see some estimate isobars mapped onto these images. |
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