NH Arrokoth (formerly Ultima Thule) Encounter Observations & Results, post-flyby discussion as the data arrives |
NH Arrokoth (formerly Ultima Thule) Encounter Observations & Results, post-flyby discussion as the data arrives |
Feb 9 2019, 11:39 PM
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re: resurfacing, we're certainly looking at a world where geology doesn't apply in the usual sense, but there are still mechanisms at this scale that can blank the surface: • The shaking that occurs with a straight-on impact could cause material to flow down slopes. • An impact could shower the surface with material causing a new surface to overlie the old one. • Porous portions of the body could collapse inward to a new configuration at higher density. • Electrostatic accumulation of fine-grained material burying the old surface. More? Cohesion • Tholin ("Sagan's star tar") surface weathering cementing sun-facing surfaces into a crust WITH sun-facing surface darkening over a wide spectral range. ReDistribution • YORP (natural photon drive) effects spinning the lobes up/down over time, depending on their current orientation and frost coverage/albedo patterns. •sYORP (natural photon+cryovolatile gas drive) effects spinning the lobes up/down depending on their current orientation and frost coverge/albedo patterns. Observation- The patterns on the surface of Ultima Thule resembles the heat/flow patterns you get on a breakfast pancake- a thin surface layer breaking and creeping as the interior slumps and spreads out. Let's assume UT consists of unconsolidated material high in volatiles. Apply heat (sunlight/hot pan) to form a crust/tholins, and you find that the bulk material spreads out (YORP, sYORP, heat driven sublimation to the limb) into a thin disk. Hypothesis- Tholin formation causes "browning" which forms a skin,then -A YORP/sYORP spin or -B ammonia/volatile sublimation push material towards the edge/shadowed limb of the dark side. This mass transfer to the edges results in a "pancake" shape where a tough tholin skin develops on two sides and sublimating material "squishes" out along the perimeter. |
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Feb 10 2019, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1729 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
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Feb 10 2019, 03:54 PM
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MU69 is far from the Sun and large(ish). wouldn't YORP be negligible on such a body? Normally yes. But, like raindrops wearing down a mountain range seems negligible, over geologic or astronomical timeframes it should add up. A recent paper mentions ammonia sublimation and deposition as a resurfacing possibility, Ultima Thule (486958; 2014 MU69): Necklace, Composition, Rotation, Formation https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.00997 so if there is enough heat from photos to drive sublimation, there should be enough photons for YORP or sYORP. And a hamburger shaped dark-red body is a pretty good candidate for YORP/sYORP effects, especially if there is a white frosty coating on one side. So, it seems like we are looking at a pair of spheroids, resembling a "bag of oranges" or "bag of grapes". Wait, I finally read the extended caption, -the blue dotted lines are the range of uncertainty!?! "The dashed blue lines span the uncertainty in that hemisphere, which shows that Ultima Thule could be either flatter than, or not as flat as, depicted in this figure. " So, these could be incredibly flattened! |
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Feb 11 2019, 04:51 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 27-March 15 Member No.: 7426 |
Could it be that the problems of dissipating momentum, and the odd, flattened shapes of Ultima and Thule could be related? Could the momentum have been dissipated when the two objects encountered each other in space, in the process of pulling each other into the flattened shapes we observe today?
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Feb 11 2019, 06:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1582 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
My notes on the press conference remind me that it was predicted that CA06 would be the potentially highest resolution images. These "crescent" images are CA07 and I see CA01 and CA04 in the raw images page. Still more coming!
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Feb 11 2019, 07:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 24-July 15 Member No.: 7619 |
Could it be that the problems of dissipating momentum, and the odd, flattened shapes of Ultima and Thule could be related? Could the momentum have been dissipated when the two objects encountered each other in space, in the process of pulling each other into the flattened shapes we observe today? There are a few ideas similar to that- usually dealing with a mostly vaporized rocky planet loses energy to reform a rocky planet or binary; of course, when you think of it, this is fundamentally the same process as gas and ice losing energy to form a KBO. The structure of terrestrial bodies: Impact heating, corotation limits, and synestias https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...02/2016JE005239 The Origin of the Moon Within a Terrestrial Synestia https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...02/2017JE005333 |
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Feb 22 2019, 01:49 AM
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Forum Contributor Group: Members Posts: 1372 Joined: 8-February 04 From: North East Florida, USA. Member No.: 11 |
Alan Stern tweeted, new pics tomorrow .
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Feb 22 2019, 07:17 PM
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Sharpest view of Ultima Thule: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/News-A...p?page=20190222
"...The most detailed images of Ultima Thule -- obtained just minutes before the spacecraft's closest approach at 12:33 a.m. EST on Jan. 1 -- have a resolution of about 110 feet (33 meters) per pixel..." "... The higher resolution brings out a many surface features that weren't readily apparent in earlier images. Among them are several bright, enigmatic, roughly circular patches of terrain. In addition, many small, dark pits near the terminator (the boundary between the sunlit and dark sides of the body) are better resolved. "Whether these features are craters produced by impactors, sublimation pits, collapse pits, or something entirely different, is being debated in our science team," said John Spencer, deputy project scientist from SwRI." |
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Feb 22 2019, 07:46 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks that NH missed MU69 at the closest distance ?
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Feb 22 2019, 07:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
Amazing new views!
Am I the only one that thinks that NH missed MU69 at the closest distance ? As Alan, said, these were the 'stretch goal' images, just a few minutes before closest approach. I don't think there will be much higher detail than this to come. Will there? |
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Feb 22 2019, 08:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1582 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
Am I the only one that thinks that NH missed MU69 at the closest distance ? CA06 was predicted to be at 35m/pixel at the first post-encounter press conference. CA06 was said to be the highest resolution. This is CA06 and it's 33m/pixel. Doesn't sound like a miss. |
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Feb 22 2019, 08:27 PM
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A bit disappointing how grainy the images are, but I'm sure a few image processors will pretty them up in no time! Absolutely astonished that they were able to capture the entirety of MU69 in the frame, considering how fast everything was going, and the margin of error! What a feat of engineering and mathematics this is! Congrats to all involved!
I don't think there will be much higher detail than this to come. Will there? There won't, unfortunately. The next LORRI and Ralph observations after this one occurred at 05:42 UTC, which were the first looks at MU69's limb that were published a fortnight ago. |
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Feb 22 2019, 08:35 PM
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A bit disappointing how grainy the images are, but I'm sure a few image processors will pretty them up in no time! We were warned that the images would be noisy - recall that solar illumination is very weak there and the camera was moving by very fast! |
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Feb 22 2019, 08:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 14-December 15 Member No.: 7860 |
The noise in the pictures is the effect of adding up the huge speed of the ship during the flight, the very dark surface of the small object and the poor lighting due to the great distance from the Sun. Under these conditions - really great photos!!! Congratulations for the precision of framing!
I think that this noise will leave us forever with many unsolved questions about UT. |
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Feb 22 2019, 08:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 22-November 15 Member No.: 7847 |
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