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GregM
post Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
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A number of postings back, somebody was "dissing" the Pioneer Spin-Scan Multi-Polariimiter/Camera as a primitive camera. I'd like to come, a bit, to it's defense.

The camera was actually 3 instruments in one. It was a zodiacal light photometer/polarimiter. On it's way out to Jupiter and beyond, it repeatedly imaged the entire sky except near the sun in red and blue light with full polarization analysis abilities. The resolution was terrible, about 1 or 1 1/2 degrees, but they were mapping the skyglow of the solarsystem, not taking pictures. They proved that the backscattered glow from the zodiacal light disappeared as you went through the asteroid belt to undetectably low levels, and proved that the gegenshein <counterglow--a bright patch in the zodiacal light centered on zero degree phase angle> was a photometric effect, and not due to a dust-cloud orbiting the sun at say the earth's L2 point.

Processing the zodiacal photometry stuff involved mapping the pixels onto the celestial sphere, identifying detectible stars in each field of view, and subtracting the calculated starlight to get sky maps free from bright star contamination. The team doing this work never produces sky-map images from the data, and I've always wanted to see color/polarization maps of the sky from the Pioneers.


The cameras also took intermediate resolution spin-scan polarimetry maps of Jupiter and Saturn with the disks well resolved at a full range of phase angles, not available from earth. Again, the images were 2 color, with full polarization analysys. This provided large amounts of QUANTITATIVE information on light scattering by cloud particles in the upper troposphere and stratosphere, data that was not duplicated or improved on in any way by the Voyagers. This data was and continues to be of use in modeling the structure of the visible parts of these planet's atmospheres.

Finally, the best images from Pioneer 10 had resolution approaching Voyager's best. Pioneer took a picture with 60 km/pixel <if I recall> resolution at closest approach. It''s reproduced in the Journal of Geophysical Research's Pioneer 10 special issue. Radiation hits caused the gain of the camera <basically exposure> to shift a few times during the sequence, and the data has a strong periodic noise component possibly associated with radiation hitting the spinning spacecraft, but it couild and should have been restored and composited into a color image. Voyager's best resolutions on Jupiter were only some 15 to 20 km.
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- GregM   Reprocessing Historical Images   Apr 21 2005, 11:26 PM
- - Gsnorgathon   I have to admit I'm a real sucker for those ...   Apr 22 2005, 08:05 AM
- - OWW   Cool Mariner 4/6/7 ( and more ) stuff: http://memb...   Apr 22 2005, 08:16 AM
- - 4th rock from the sun   The problem is having the original datasets for th...   Apr 22 2005, 12:14 PM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM
|- - tedstryk   Don Mitchell has gotten ahold of the original Vene...   Apr 22 2005, 04:24 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (GregM @ Apr 22 2005, 04:01 PM)QUOTE (4...   Apr 22 2005, 06:55 PM
|- - tedstryk   In the case of the Venera data, that is a Russian ...   Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM
- - deglr6328   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Apr 22 2005, 08:02 PM)In th...   Apr 22 2005, 11:56 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have not come across original Pioneer image data...   Apr 23 2005, 03:04 AM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 23 2005, 04:28 AM
- - edstrick   The digital data for the final versions of <mos...   Apr 23 2005, 09:25 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE ... Note that the mariner 4 images were tak...   Apr 25 2005, 11:29 PM
- - edstrick   Mariner 6 and 7 returned two "primary" i...   Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM
|- - tedstryk   The reason so much of Mariner 6/7 imagery was sent...   Apr 23 2005, 12:24 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Somewhere in my box of space slides from the 1970s...   Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Apr 23 2005, 12:37 PM)Somew...   Apr 23 2005, 12:49 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   Yup, that's the chappie! And my memory is...   Apr 23 2005, 09:13 PM
|- - peter59   QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 09:50 AM)Marin...   Apr 24 2005, 06:39 AM
- - edstrick   Mariner Mars 1971 was to be a two spacecraft missi...   Apr 23 2005, 10:14 AM
- - deglr6328   I am so consistently dumbfounded at the amazing de...   Apr 23 2005, 05:50 PM
- - edstrick   To chase down the history and existance of the Pio...   Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ Apr 23 2005, 08:28 PM)To ch...   Apr 24 2005, 03:08 AM
- - TheChemist   peter59, thanks for providing the link to your won...   Apr 24 2005, 08:24 AM
- - edstrick   One annoying problem with the radiometrically corr...   Apr 24 2005, 09:39 AM
|- - GregM   .   Apr 27 2005, 01:55 AM
- - edstrick   GregM and 4'th Rock are certainly on the right...   Apr 27 2005, 10:49 AM
|- - tedstryk   Speaking of historical images, this is some work I...   May 9 2005, 04:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   It's show and tell time.. I guess. Here's...   May 11 2005, 03:32 AM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   This is extremely impressive, IMHO especially pete...   May 12 2005, 10:57 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bjorn Jonsson @ May 12 2005, 10:57 PM)...   May 14 2005, 09:42 PM
|- - GregM   .   May 17 2005, 03:27 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 10:27 PM)<snip...   May 17 2005, 06:29 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (GregM @ May 16 2005, 08:27 PM)That...   May 17 2005, 03:24 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I promised earlier that I would post something fro...   May 17 2005, 01:26 PM
|- - tedstryk   Phil, I am nowhere near trumping you. It will be ...   May 17 2005, 07:38 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Phil: Very, very nice! Now, the $64,000...   May 17 2005, 07:39 PM
||- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 17 2005, 02:39 PM)Phil:...   May 17 2005, 08:01 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:26 AM)I ...   May 17 2005, 07:41 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   If I remember correctly, Voyager 2 also got some b...   May 17 2005, 06:32 PM
- - Phil Stooke   The detail looks west and north, and the full pan ...   May 17 2005, 08:05 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Thanks, guys!   May 17 2005, 09:02 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 17 2005, 08:05 PM)Th...   May 17 2005, 11:27 PM
- - Phil Stooke   I am attaching a set of maps which portray the Sur...   May 18 2005, 01:37 PM
|- - chris   Very nice, Phil. Chris   May 18 2005, 02:41 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Fascinating!   May 18 2005, 08:43 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 18 2005, 08:43 PM)Fasci...   May 22 2005, 07:49 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 22 2005, 07:49 PM)Does ...   May 22 2005, 11:23 PM
|- - tedstryk   If you have these numbers in a simple text file I...   May 23 2005, 12:06 AM
|- - GregM   .   May 23 2005, 02:16 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I didn't do the geometric correction! T...   May 23 2005, 03:09 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   The Surveyor hemispherical panorama domes (there *...   May 23 2005, 10:23 AM
- - edstrick   A number of postings back, somebody was "diss...   May 23 2005, 04:58 AM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 22 2005, 11:58 PM)A num...   May 23 2005, 06:44 AM
- - edstrick   I don't know any links, the Pioneer team never...   May 23 2005, 09:49 AM
|- - lyford   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 23 2005, 01:49 AM)I don...   May 23 2005, 03:48 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   I made a preliminary page containing several Pione...   May 23 2005, 08:26 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (lyford @ May 23 2005, 04:48 PM)That bo...   May 23 2005, 09:41 PM
- - Phil Stooke   A few more words about the Surveyor panoramas. Th...   May 23 2005, 10:07 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ May 23 2005, 05:07 PM)A ...   May 24 2005, 06:58 AM
- - edstrick   The Surveyor images were recorded on tape... ANALO...   May 24 2005, 10:55 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 24 2005, 10:55 AM)The S...   May 24 2005, 11:45 AM
- - djellison   Shouldnt someone like the Planetary Society or sim...   May 24 2005, 11:38 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Ted said: Actually, that project is still underwa...   May 24 2005, 01:12 PM
- - Phil Stooke   ...And I ought to add something about Russian effo...   May 24 2005, 01:24 PM
|- - tedstryk   Yeah, Voyager was the last to have the dots. Vidi...   May 24 2005, 02:08 PM
- - Decepticon   In the Pionner images of Jupiters moons Ganymede l...   May 25 2005, 07:24 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 25 2005, 07:24 PM)In ...   May 25 2005, 08:03 PM
- - Decepticon   Great work! ^   May 25 2005, 09:14 PM
- - Decepticon   If remember right, one of the Pionners was to take...   May 26 2005, 12:39 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Decepticon @ May 26 2005, 12:39 AM)I r...   May 26 2005, 12:57 AM
- - edstrick   The Pioneer Jupiter missions were done by direct c...   May 26 2005, 08:07 AM
- - Decepticon   What a shock it would have been if those images ma...   May 26 2005, 01:21 PM
|- - tedstryk   Another project I am working on is trying to work ...   May 27 2005, 02:01 PM
|- - chris   The thing that always amazes me about the Venera l...   May 27 2005, 03:10 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   The estimable Don Davis has also rectified Venera ...   May 27 2005, 04:04 PM
||- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ May 27 2005, 04:04 PM)The e...   May 27 2005, 04:39 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ May 27 2005, 07:01 AM)Anoth...   May 30 2005, 05:55 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (JRehling @ May 30 2005, 05:55 PM)The o...   Jun 1 2005, 02:53 AM
- - Decepticon   WOW! That is amazing!   May 30 2005, 08:40 PM
- - 4th rock from the sun   Interesting images ! Very nice! But those ...   May 30 2005, 09:50 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0...   May 30 2005, 10:31 PM
||- - paxdan   if the hills are real does this in any way help pi...   May 30 2005, 11:48 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (4th rock from the sun @ May 30 2005, 0...   May 31 2005, 02:07 AM
- - Phil Stooke   Paxdan - no, it does not help locate the landing s...   May 31 2005, 12:08 AM
- - GregM   .   May 31 2005, 01:25 AM
- - Phil Stooke   I have finally finished the Surveyor 5 pan. Here ...   May 31 2005, 08:46 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Phil: Is there anything *interesting* on the hori...   May 31 2005, 09:04 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Unfortunately there is no feature on the horizon w...   May 31 2005, 09:41 PM
- - tedstryk   http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_Venus.htm Check ...   Jun 1 2005, 11:45 AM
|- - DDAVIS   Here is a perspective drawing I made in support of...   Jun 1 2005, 04:26 PM
|- - tedstryk   I have created a new Venera page. http://pages.pr...   Jun 2 2005, 03:34 AM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Jun 2 2005, 04:34 AM)I have...   Jun 2 2005, 04:22 PM
|- - GregM   .   Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (GregM @ Jun 3 2005, 02:51 AM)I think y...   Jun 3 2005, 02:54 AM
- - Decepticon   tedstryk Great work! Your web-page is in my bo...   Jun 2 2005, 12:11 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Jupiter is highly variable with time. The change i...   Jun 2 2005, 02:22 PM
|- - 4th rock from the sun   QUOTE (Decepticon @ Jun 2 2005, 01:11 PM)How ...   Jun 2 2005, 04:34 PM
- - Phil Stooke   Another Surveyor 5 scene. This goes out to the ho...   Jun 2 2005, 07:56 PM
- - Decepticon   Thanks for the links! It really did change...   Jun 2 2005, 08:58 PM
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