Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011 |
Dawn approaches Vesta, Approach phase, 3 May to 16 July 2011 |
Jun 17 2011, 08:34 PM
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#196
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1582 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
Nice. Watch out Miranda... this place may have more lumps.
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Jun 17 2011, 08:46 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2250 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
Dawn's images are now definitely better than HST's.
It now seems pretty certain that Vesta's shape is more irregular and lumpy than Miranda's (the earlier images strongly hinted at this). The shape is probably not 'jagged' as seemed possible from the June 1 images but the overall shape is still remarkably irregular for such a big body. I get the impression that we are seeing both topographic shading and albedo features but this will not become clear until higher resolution images are obtained (a rotation movie from recent images might reveal more about this though). |
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Jun 17 2011, 09:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 599 Joined: 26-August 05 Member No.: 476 |
Please, sir, I want some more.
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Jun 17 2011, 09:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2082 Joined: 13-February 10 From: Ontario Member No.: 5221 |
End of the drought! Is the south pole visible from this point? We may already be seeing the big impact.
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Jun 17 2011, 09:39 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10151 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Thanks, Dawn team! Much appreciated!
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jun 18 2011, 03:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1018 Joined: 29-November 05 From: Seattle, WA, USA Member No.: 590 |
I still think it's a good idea, when these photos get posted, to share them on Facebook. And encourage your friends to 1) "like" the camera and 2) "share" the camera.
http://www.facebook.com/dawn.framing.camera Yes, it's up from just 24 friends to 217 since Emily first proposed it, but sending a consistent message always helps. And it still seems this is just a tiny fraction of all the people we ought to be able to reach. --Greg |
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Jun 18 2011, 05:00 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
I just want to point out that it's really bizarre that this photo, from a JPL mission, has been released on the imaging team's website but is nowhere to be found on the Dawn mission site or in Photojournal. JPL is usually so together and organized, everything shows up everywhere nearly simultaneously, so this is really anomalous. However it got out, I'm very happy! There's still not a lot to see, just enough to see that there's a lot more to be seen....
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Jun 18 2011, 07:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 1-October 06 Member No.: 1206 |
Wow
Where is the axis of rotation in that image? I get the impression that the south pole is NOT visible in that image if I compare it to the Hubble shots. If not, that's a truly gigantic 'lump' on the limb, and signs of more 'lumps' around the equator? Perhaps I'm reading to much into the image. This is going to be good that's for sure. When you think about it - this is a brand new TYPE of object, a rocky 500km-ish diameter potato. What is Proteus made of - is it icy or rocky? That's the only thing I can think of to compare this to... P |
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Jun 18 2011, 08:57 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Little bit of sharpening n'stuff...
My, that's a freaky screaming-monkey-being-tortured-in-a-lab face top right, isn't it..? -------------------- |
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Jun 18 2011, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1419 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
What is Proteus made of - is it icy or rocky? Not that we know for certain, but it's almost surely icy, considering where it formed in the solar system. -------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Jun 18 2011, 09:19 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10151 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Don't sharpen too much, Stu - that image had already been sharpened. The unsharpened version is now on the Dawn website... so you were sharpening the artifacts of sharpening, which is never a good idea!
Still, a pretty scary monkey, as you say. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 18 2011, 09:33 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Thanks Phil, wasn't claiming it was that scientific - leave that to you guys! - I just thought it brought out the face quite strikingly.
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Jun 18 2011, 09:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1729 Joined: 3-August 06 From: 43° 35' 53" N 1° 26' 35" E Member No.: 1004 |
Where is the axis of rotation in that image? I get the impression that the south pole is NOT visible in that image if I compare it to the Hubble shots. if you look at the movie released earlier last week, you will see that the lump at bottom left seem to be the central peak of the southern polar crater and you will get a sense of the orientation of the spin axis |
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Jun 18 2011, 11:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 1-October 06 Member No.: 1206 |
Well yes Paolo, but I can't get that to accord with the Hubble rotation movie, which shows Vesta rotating around its short axis if I remember, and where the central peak of the southern crater seems to sit nicely at the south pole (like its an oblate spheroid), whereas this seems, if that lump is the central peak of the south pole crater, to suggest that Vesta is a prolate spheroid (surely not)?
Edit: Ok, I just watched the first video again, and I see what you mean, I'll wait a few more days like the rest of us! P |
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Jun 18 2011, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
I bet the gravity models will come up with some really wild mass-distribution for this big chunky-mess. We might even expect Dawn to have a "bumpy" ride in the lowest orbits. And by "bumpy" I mean large observable orbit perturbations caused by unevenly distributed mass.
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