Concepción, The freshest crater yet to be explored |
Concepción, The freshest crater yet to be explored |
Feb 3 2010, 09:38 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 12-November 09 Member No.: 5039 |
Dust isn't only deposited - it is also blown off
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Feb 3 2010, 09:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 530 Joined: 21-March 06 From: Canada Member No.: 721 |
It's fine to speculate about what it is that you're seeing, but I think it doesn't make a lot of sense to actually sit around and argue interpretations until you inform your arguments a little bit more. Surely you jest, Emily. Millions of debates are settled each day not on facts, but on who can better argue their position. It's called our legal system. |
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Feb 3 2010, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2173 Joined: 28-December 04 From: Florida, USA Member No.: 132 |
Of course scientific interpretation is an entirely different matter from legal interpretation.
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Feb 3 2010, 10:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
But if the expert witnesses turn up with an estimate that has an uncertainty of two orders of magnitude then somebody has to step in and adjudicate.
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Feb 3 2010, 10:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 23-March 08 Member No.: 4072 |
Dust isn't only deposited - it is also blown off I think you're correct,... and dust is also blown into (maybe more than blown off, because a crater acts like a hole in the soil). In any case, it's evident that older craters are more dust filled than newer ones. There are plenty of ancient dust filled craters almost completely filled, which rims are almost unrecognizable. Maybe it's complex to determine an approximate relationship of crater age from crater diameter and depth, but I suppose that's because it's not a trivial relationship, but I think it's evident that it exists. At least, this could be a method for chronological ordering crater ages in a same martian regional area, where sand and dust behavior are the sam in all their craters. |
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Feb 3 2010, 11:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3516 Joined: 4-November 05 From: North Wales Member No.: 542 |
it's not a trivial relationship, but I think it's evident that it exists. It may not even be a monotonic relationship. A crater could fill up and get cleaned out again over and over, on long timescales. Same with drifts and dunes. They may move rapidly in some epochs, hardly at all in others, and the active epochs could be out of phase at different locations on Mars. It's not that easy to find a reliable clock on any world. (Ask the archaeologists.) |
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Feb 4 2010, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
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Feb 4 2010, 03:31 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Feb 4 2010, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2785 Joined: 10-November 06 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 1345 |
Cool!
I wonder when those fracture patterns set up on that central block. Pre-impact or post-impact? -------------------- Some higher resolution images available at my photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31678681@N07/
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Feb 4 2010, 03:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 796 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Heart of Europe Member No.: 4057 |
Some very interesting features on that rock, and the one to its right... Interesting quasicircular feature on square-shaped rock. -------------------- |
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Feb 4 2010, 04:21 PM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
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Feb 4 2010, 08:33 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 22-September 08 Member No.: 4349 |
Mahanay Island's a bit rough, isn't it?
Is that a ring of blueberries around the base? If so, I wonder if some scholarly soul with a knowledge of the weathering rate could put this scene to good use. |
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Feb 4 2010, 10:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 547 Joined: 1-May 06 From: Scotland (Ecosse, Escocia) Member No.: 759 |
... but I'm always amazed by the sight of rock 'towers' like these... [attachment=20597:tower_crop.jpg] For me, the undercutting erosion of features like this blows away the idea that Concepcion is a mere 1000 years old. It must be much older, surely... with the caveat that I have not yet done the homework advised by Emily. |
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Feb 5 2010, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4279 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
Did anyone mention the magic word? "Names"?... The Concepción was burned on the island of Bohol, that's one cool name isn't it?...And the island as its own nice places...like Chocolate Hills... Just got word from our beloved MC, the suggestion was approved, a Mars bar anyone? This is from tosol's plan: > 02145::p2556::24::4::0::0::4::2::10::pancam_Chocolate_Hills_L257R1 Enjoy it. |
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Feb 5 2010, 08:38 AM
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The Poet Dude Group: Moderator Posts: 5551 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Kendal, Cumbria, UK Member No.: 60 |
Chocolate Hills... you couldn't make it up, could you?
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