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Forum: Telescopic Observations · Post Preview: #255444 · Replies: 297 · Views: 334988 |
Posted on: Dec 11 2021, 05:19 PM | |
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Animated dust devils from sol 285. The interaction of the dust devil with the dunes and ripples in the first frame is interesting (see also "storyboard"). [attachment=49883:NLG_0285...devils__.gif] WOW! stunning |
Forum: Perseverance- Mars 2020 Rover · Post Preview: #255417 · Replies: 151 · Views: 78784 |
Posted on: Dec 9 2021, 12:12 AM | |
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I was going to post up the highlighted map but I'll wait until I can work out how to upload something in the post properly. I have added my original map to the Shape File from SBMT which you can view here: Ryugu 3D Model I'm keen to get access to other data to add to this:
is it possible to download the shape mesh and Texture, i can't find any download options anywhere (even after logging into my scetchfab account) |
Forum: Hayabusa2 · Post Preview: #255373 · Replies: 981 · Views: 865607 |
Posted on: Nov 30 2021, 12:14 AM | |
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Yes, I expect for the 2061 perhelion we will have much better capabilities, even for a short flyby. A bit of a wait, of course! (I do wonder what sort of wild trajectory would one need to actually rendezvous and follow Halley, Rosetta-style? so could it still be accepted as a map for comet Halley, until the thing comes back and we preform a good flyby |
Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255253 · Replies: 61 · Views: 83652 |
Posted on: Nov 29 2021, 07:39 PM | ||
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Nice to see an attempt to make a new map with a cylindrical projection, if that is useful for such an elongated comet nucleus. How are the coordinates defined? Perhaps with some additional effort it would look more presentable. the orientation and offset matches the orientation of the model below, so if you texture the model in blender using UV maps, the data should be placed in the correct spots on the model (unless you uv mapped the thing wrong) and i reprojected the images using the shape model (did a modification to the model to better fit the vega part of the map, model was a bit off) pics of the fixed mesh download .STL below halley.zip ( 1.22MB ) Number of downloads: 109 |
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Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255250 · Replies: 61 · Views: 83652 |
Posted on: Nov 29 2021, 06:24 PM | ||
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Almost all of the details in that "map" are artifacts. It's full of jagged transitions between bright and dark that don't correspond to anything whatsoever in the real world. Nobody's posted anything like that because nobody's interested in artifacts. Here is a map: https://solarviews.com/cap/comet/halmap.htm tried to fix the jagged edges |
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Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255248 · Replies: 61 · Views: 83652 |
Posted on: Nov 29 2021, 05:58 PM | |
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a google search found the MS windows binaries https://github.com/rpeyron/plugin-gimp-four...es/tag/v0.4.3-3 tried installing (did it correctly), restarting gimp and the option for it is not appearing how do i make it work? |
Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255247 · Replies: 59 · Views: 127548 |
Posted on: Nov 29 2021, 05:24 PM | |
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Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255245 · Replies: 59 · Views: 127548 |
Posted on: Nov 29 2021, 01:41 AM | |
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i figured out how to dem process in gimp, but how do i remove streaks in the DEM |
Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255239 · Replies: 59 · Views: 127548 |
Posted on: Nov 28 2021, 12:27 PM | |
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i see no one made any maps from the images so i did |
Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255233 · Replies: 61 · Views: 83652 |
Posted on: Nov 28 2021, 12:17 PM | |
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I assume you mean images from the LICIACube. Google is your friend--good to develop the skill to answer your own questions. Lots of information on this satellite including the two cameras Leia and Luke. The most detailed information I've come across in in this PDF "LICIACube is equipped with two optical cameras (narrow and wide FoV) that allow acquiring significant images and evidence of the DART mission fulfillment. The primary instrument, named LEIA (Liciacube Explorer Imaging for Asteroid), is a catadioptric camera composed of two reflective elements and three refractive elements with a FoV of ± 2.06° on the sensor diagonal. The optic is designed to work in focus between 25 km and infinity and the detector is a monochromatic CMOS sensor with 2048x2048 pixel. The latter is equipped with a Panchromatic filters centered at 650nm±250nm. The primary camera will acquire pictures from a high distance providing high level of details of the frame field. The secondary instrument, named LUKE (Liciacube Unit Key Explorer), is the Gecko imager from SCS space, a camera with an RGB Bayer pattern filter, designed to work in focus between 400 m to infinity. The sensor unit is designed to contain the image sensor interfacing with a NanoCU, while the optics consists of a ruggedized, mission configurable aperture, lens and required spectral filters. Moreover, the hardware is capable of directly integrating the image data to the integrated mass storage." I'll let you do the math to find the resolution. we could easily get a 4k or 8k texture map from those images hopefully someone creates a shape model from the imagery (as radar meshes tend to not be fully correct, good example of this is toutatis), so i am able to properly reproject the stuff |
Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255232 · Replies: 147 · Views: 75557 |
Posted on: Nov 27 2021, 04:12 PM | |
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Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255221 · Replies: 56 · Views: 133289 |
Posted on: Nov 27 2021, 04:06 PM | |
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what would be the highest resolution image possible of the asteroids? |
Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255220 · Replies: 147 · Views: 75557 |
Posted on: Nov 27 2021, 12:43 PM | |
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Jupiter 2021 maps: https://archive.stsci.edu/missions/hlsp/opa...ycle28/jupiter/ Saturn 2021 maps: https://archive.stsci.edu/missions/hlsp/opal/cycle28/saturn/ Uranus 2021 maps: https://archive.stsci.edu/missions/hlsp/opal/cycle28/uranus/ Neptune 2021maps: https://archive.stsci.edu/missions/hlsp/opa...ycle28/neptune/ you can also find the same maps here https://archive.stsci.edu/prepds/opal/ |
Forum: Uranus and Neptune · Post Preview: #255216 · Replies: 37 · Views: 144200 |
Posted on: Nov 26 2021, 01:31 PM | |
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I hadn't heard about Hera. It's an ESA mission to send a spacecraft to 65803 Didymos, the asteroid that Dart will crash into, and survey the damage. https://www.esa.int/Safety_Security/Hera There's no thread for Hera on UMSF, but there are a few posts in the Unmanned Exploration Of Comets & Asteroids topic. http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...ic=1951&hl= NASA has an unrelated mission with the same name that doesn't involve robotic space exploration. could we just also use this thread for Hera sense DART and Hera is going to the same double asteroid system? (question mainly for nprev) |
Forum: Cometary and Asteroid Missions · Post Preview: #255208 · Replies: 147 · Views: 75557 |
Posted on: Nov 21 2021, 08:53 PM | |
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A NASA post from yesterday https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/h...er-solar-system, provides some beautiful images, a nice video and interesting commentary concerning HST's most recent OPAL survey of the outer planets. See also the Hubble site post here: https://hubblesite.org/contents/news-releas...1/news-2021-047 https://hubblesite.org/contents/media/video...DM0PS?news=true whoa.....where did neptune's 2nd dark spot hubble saw in 2020 go? --EDIT-- very crude map of jupiter 2021 from hubble (i used a higher resolution image i was able to find for the area that is containing the great red spot) |
Forum: Uranus and Neptune · Post Preview: #255176 · Replies: 37 · Views: 144200 |
Posted on: Nov 19 2021, 12:12 PM | |
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"how didn't pluto blow up into tons of pieces" An impact crater forms as an expanding shock from the impact excavates a transient cavity, which becomes the crater after other modifications (gravity, ejecta fallback etc). For a body to be blown apart the entire body has to be within that transient cavity. No observed impact crater from Stickney on Phobos to SPA on the Moon or Sputnik on Pluto comes close to that. If you can see a crater it was nowhere near blowing the object apart. Also, the drawings of Pluto are by James Tuttle Keane. Phil James Tuttle Keane did a nice job at rendering the formation of sputnik so the impacter needs to be really really huge (almost the same size as pluto) and moving fast to destroy pluto |
Forum: Pluto / KBO · Post Preview: #255159 · Replies: 7 · Views: 15211 |
Posted on: Nov 18 2021, 09:47 PM | |
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A closer look at the map projected images of that paper reveal around 4 fractures of the anti-encounter side "Reindeer Antlers" extending into the southern hemisphere as I thought would be the case as well as two features between them I can certainly say are craters, one with a central peak around 45 South 330 East. There are several other crater-like circular features and linear ones but these could just be noise artifacts as they do not stand out as much as those mentioned above. The best way I could compare this analysis is when Phil Stooke had to pick out features on blurry images of Puck, Larissa, and Proteus. uhmm..it would be a good idea to post a pic so the experts can have a look and see if its just noise or if your on to something that Sputnik impact (formed the heart) must have been very powerful to cause the other side to crack and buckle that much, how didn't pluto blow up into tons of pieces by the force/power of this near head on(?) collision? looks like the terrain cracked around the heart (creating cracks around the heart, and lots of buckled terrain) (i looked at pluto's DEM) |
Forum: Pluto / KBO · Post Preview: #255153 · Replies: 7 · Views: 15211 |
Posted on: Nov 15 2021, 12:14 PM | |
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There is an afterword in that paper that had me checking the Brown & Batygin blog here. There are a few 2021 updates that I hadn't seen. interesting, scale diagram is nice, that size is a bit more realistic for a planet that may have been thrown out way far by jupiter (this is one of the formation theories), and couldn't grab any more material to grow to the size of the 2 known ice giants |
Forum: Telescopic Observations · Post Preview: #255132 · Replies: 5 · Views: 7013 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 05:27 PM | |
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The paper that Phil linked to discusses that. High pass filters accomplish what I suggested with downsampling. If the relatively brief description doesn't make this clear, it was obviously a lot of hard work, not just trying one or two things. The removal of instrument noise can often be served to some extent by removing the noise seen in dark frames, or, if you lack those, the dark areas of other frames. It is essential to find ones with the same capture parameters. I think you're greatly underestimating the amount of difficult, persistent, autonomous effort that is required. This isn't going to be something where you skim the manual, try one thing, quote a link without reading what was in the link, and expect to be done. If you're asking other people how to do image processing, and expect to get a result that they haven't already gotten, you won't get anywhere. We all have image processing software. The careful, painstaking, laborious, autonomous effort is the thing in short supply, not access to image processing software. On another note, circular dark spots in those areas need not be craters. Instrument artifacts are often circular, Pluto is known to have circular landforms that do not resemble impact craters, and as I noted earlier, the atmosphere itself introduces multiple sources of noise. what about the possible cracks i marked in yellow, is that noise or am i onto something there |
Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255125 · Replies: 13 · Views: 6473 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 05:10 PM | ||
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Definitely getting some features here Fred. Good work! Edit: Looking at the positions within the system, I actually think this may be mostly scattered light rather than Charon-shine. I tried enhancing the contrast a little more here as well. [attachment=38367:Fred_76_...__night4.png] sorry if this is nacroposting, i reprojected the thing, and compared it to the charonshine (Click Here for article) below is the charonshine from the article and here is a reprojection of that charonshine extraction attempt (i inverted it back, the thing looked like it was inverted in the original, i also did some enhancements) (offset is correct too) and most of the stuff lines up, idk if its just me or there may be some topography visible outside of the range of the charonshine (streaks in map is just artifacts) i am not saying it is 100% charonshine, i just did a little comparison, and the stuff lines up nicely, so yeah you have some night-side terrains (illuminated by atmosphere shine, a bit of it could be charonshine) |
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Forum: New Horizons · Post Preview: #255124 · Replies: 308 · Views: 297724 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 04:03 PM | |
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its possible it would just be an artifact in the data or a distant IR object we need to see if the object moves in multiple images (like how we detect new dwarf planets or comets), if it moves, than we are onto something, if it does not, its a distant IR object or something else, and if its nowhere to be found, than its just a hiccup (artifact) in the data |
Forum: Telescopic Observations · Post Preview: #255121 · Replies: 5 · Views: 7013 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 11:53 AM | |||
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Regarding the Uranian satellites illuminated by light reflected off the planet: you can only see it if you are looking at the part of the satellite which faces Uranus - if you are seeing the region facing away from the planet you won't see anything. In the absolutely ideal case you would see 50% of the moon lit by the sun and another 25% lit by the planet, but viewing directions will not always cooperate. You might like to see this blog post by Ted Stryk: https://www.planetary.org/articles/1362 And this is the LPSC abstract that started it all: https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2001/pdf/1074.pdf Believe it or not, nobody had noticed this before. I can't believe it was over 20 years ago. Phil i down-sampled and messed with brightness and contrast, but i still can't see much detail other than some craters (marked in red in the pic with marks on it), and some faults (marked in yellow in the pic with marks on it) how did how did ted remove all the instrument noise, that Pluto image is so noisy and makes it hard to see much detail in the night side stuff, other than some craters and faults/cracks |
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Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255119 · Replies: 13 · Views: 6473 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 02:06 AM | |
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The Pluto image has detail for hundreds of pixels beyond the terminator, but at the level of exposure, that area of the image is speckled. It can look cleaner to downsample it, then turn up the brightness. The problem with the areas of Pluto illuminated by twilight is that it's not completely straightforward what the detail means. With an airless body and a known point-like source of illumination, one can infer quite a bit. With illumination from an overhead sky whose luminance is itself not well characterized, it's in principle ambiguous whether, say, a dark patch in the image corresponds to darker albedo on the solid surface, slope due to topography, haze between the source of illumination and the surface, or haze between us and the surface. That's a lot of ambiguity. so how can i bring out the detail in gimp? |
Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255109 · Replies: 13 · Views: 6473 |
Posted on: Nov 14 2021, 01:41 AM | |
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Forum: Image Processing Techniques · Post Preview: #255107 · Replies: 13 · Views: 6473 |
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