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cIclops
post Mar 11 2005, 01:01 PM
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The standard settings work fine for creating 3D landscapes but not for close objects, are there parameters that will generate better anaglyphs for close up features?


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post Mar 11 2005, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (cIclops @ Mar 11 2005, 01:01 PM)
The standard settings work fine for creating 3D landscapes but not for close objects, are there parameters that will generate better anaglyphs for close up features?

I'm planning on adding a feature where you can generate anaglyphs 'on the fly' with whatever settings you like, but I've got a lot of other stuff to add first. Maybe others can answer with what settings they use. The pancam images, with the shift percentage set to 0, handles objects about as close as it's going to get until I rewrite the code some. (Edit: Actually I think it's the other way around, but somebody wanted the ability to shift pancam images the other way... sorry, it's early, and I swore off coffee. I might bump up the priority of this 'generate anaglyph' feature a little bit, though, since I'd like to have it myself.)
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post Mar 14 2005, 09:12 AM
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thanks tons and tons for the program this is sooo cool.
Wish i had found it sooner smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2005, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (wyogold @ Mar 14 2005, 09:12 AM)
thanks tons and tons for the program this is sooo cool.
Wish i had found it sooner smile.gif

I wish I'd written it sooner. It's only been out for about a month. smile.gif

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post Mar 14 2005, 01:53 PM
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Have you thought of having it download MI Images - and make pseudo-colour MI images from the orange MI cover filter?

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post Mar 14 2005, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 14 2005, 01:53 PM)
Have you thought of having it download MI Images - and make pseudo-colour MI images from the orange MI cover filter?

Doug

Thought about it... I haven't checked yet to see how well that would work automatically. Anyway when I get around to adding the manual image generation options, I'd like to support making color micro images, and also, especially, stereo micro images. (Plus I have some other ideas how to do it, but we'll see how far we get.)

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post Mar 17 2005, 12:15 PM
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Not that I want to start a conflagration here, but I'm interested in people's opinions on the following. One feature I'd very much like to add in the not-too-distant future is a "Sol Info" window which would show the text description of what happened on the Sol that you are currently looking at in Slideshow mode. This information would ideally be copied and pasted from the JPL writeups describing each sol. Are there any feelings on the legalities of that, in view of the discussion in the Live Dust Devil thread? Is giving credit to JPL in the description enough?
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post Mar 17 2005, 01:09 PM
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MHoward: I don't know much about legality in that matter, but maybe a convenient solution is, instead of copying/pasting the JPL's sol info text, to make MMB displaying a clickable link toward the JPL Sol info page?


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post Mar 17 2005, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (erwan @ Mar 17 2005, 01:09 PM)
MHoward: I don't know much about legality in that matter, but maybe a convenient solution is, instead of copying/pasting the JPL's sol info text, to make MMB displaying a clickable link toward the JPL Sol info page?

I might have to fall back on that, if I can figure out how to do it. I think it's less effective in some ways than what I have in mind, though.
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post Mar 17 2005, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Mar 17 2005, 12:15 PM)
Not that I want to start a conflagration here, but I'm interested in people's opinions on the following. One feature I'd very much like to add in the not-too-distant future is a "Sol Info" window which would show the text description of what happened on the Sol that you are currently looking at in Slideshow mode. This information would ideally be copied and pasted from the JPL writeups describing each sol. Are there any feelings on the legalities of that, in view of the discussion in the Live Dust Devil thread? Is giving credit to JPL in the description enough?

A great idea, i'm still hoping you can display the image data encoded in the file name ... filter, site, date time etc etc ... nothing fancy, a transparent overlay will do smile.gif

Publish, credit and be dammed!


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post Mar 18 2005, 05:06 AM
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Mike, would it be difficult to put a 'size' option, so I exclude downloading any file less than 10k. I really don't care for the fuzzy EDN images. Of course that means I'll miss out on the 'eclipse' images too...hmmm...well...all the same, if it were an option I could always go back when something comes up.

Still loving MMB!


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post Mar 18 2005, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (MizarKey @ Mar 18 2005, 05:06 AM)
Mike, would it be difficult to put a 'size' option, so I exclude downloading any file less than 10k.  I really don't care for the fuzzy EDN images.  Of course that means I'll miss out on the 'eclipse' images too...hmmm...well...all the same, if it were an option I could always go back when something comes up.

I'm thinking about it... unfortunately it's not quite as easy as one might think. I don't want to eliminate them from being downloaded, just put an option in the image viewing criteria. Unfortunately the problem with that is that it takes a long time to index the images to present the slideshow (it's done up front, so the images can be sorted and everything), and checking the filesize would make it much longer. So basically yes, I want to do it, but it's gonna take a little more effort. Actually what I really want to do is to be able to select images by width and height, which has the same issues. I'm currently working on an image indexing feature that might be expanded to support this. (Sorry if this is more info than you're looking for!)

P.S. You can currently deselect EDN images from the image selection, but this can eliminate images that you'd probably like to see.
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post Mar 20 2005, 03:01 PM
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Here's someone else who's trying the MMB for the first time. Sure beats piecing together RGB images in GIMP. I can't even figure out how to accurately balance the colors in GIMP anyway.
Thank you very much for this excellent little program, and thank you to all the others with the time and know-how to make those great panoramas.
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post Mar 20 2005, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (MizarKey @ Mar 18 2005, 05:06 AM)
Mike, would it be difficult to put a 'size' option, so I exclude downloading any file less than 10k. I really don't care for the fuzzy EDN images. Of course that means I'll miss out on the 'eclipse' images too...hmmm...well...all the same, if it were an option I could always go back when something comes up.

Well, it turns out that checking the filesize isn't that much of a performance penalty after all, so that will be in the next release. Checking the image width/height, unfortunately, remains out of reach for the moment, for the reasons I mentioned, but at least you can sort of weed out the smaller images using the filesize feature. The new version should be out tomorrow, if all goes well.
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post Mar 21 2005, 02:31 PM
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Version 1.0.5 is now up. http://midnightmarsbrowser.blogspot.com
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