LOLA PDS release #5 |
LOLA PDS release #5 |
Feb 25 2011, 06:50 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 20-June 09 Member No.: 4830 |
Hi All,
Some LOLA products for the PDS release (#5), which will be officially out on March 15, 2011, are now available on the LOLA PDS node ! Label files and documentation are still being worked out, but I thought it'd be good to post (and some of you know we usually put those products online a bit early) The data released are from July 13, 2009 to January 31, 2011. There are EDRs/RDRs (individual profiles) for the courageous ones. But most of you will prefer the map products ( http://imbrium.mit.edu/DATA/LOLA_GDR/ ). In addition to IMG products (int16), there are JP2 files (GeoJPEG2000) which are compressed (lossless) and contain projection information. If you use a GIS programs, that should be helpful. The attached XML files contain the statistics already, which could save you 10+ minutes for the bigger grids upon loading. (Due to PDS filenaming conventions, you need to rename them to file.JP2.aux.xml for that to work properly; tested on ArcGIS). And keep in mind that in both those formats, the data were digitized at a 0.5m granularity, so you will need to divide the values by 2 to get the actual heights (in meters). Also of interest for visualization are the updated LOLA texture packages for Celestia. ZIP files here: http://imbrium.mit.edu/EXTRAS/CELESTIA/ and a few screenshots: It'd be great also to know how this community is using the LOLA data, so please reply if you do: 1- Experimental Data Records (EDR) [raw telemetry] 2 - Reduced Data Records (RDR) [altimetric profiles] 3 - IMG Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 4 - JP2 Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 5 - Celestia Virtual Textures Enjoy !! Erwan EDIT 2011.02.25 08:30pm EST I realized there was a mistake in the level 0 normal map. (The files were the same as the topography texture...) The ZIP files have been updated. In case you downloaded the "old" version, you can download the two level 0 files here instead of re-downloading the ZIP. |
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Feb 25 2011, 07:19 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10163 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Very nice! At the bottom of the Celestia page you have the non-tiled false-color topography images. Could b/w shaded relief versions be added to that?
(EDIT - actually what Doug asks for works for me as well) Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Feb 25 2011, 07:24 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Feb 25 2011, 08:37 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 20-June 09 Member No.: 4830 |
Could b/w shaded relief versions be added to that? I added shaded-relief images from 4 different lighting azimuths. And simple unshaded greyscale 16 bit images (png/tif or similar?) That's very close to the raw IMG files, no? I added grayscale images (PNG, JPG). Erwan |
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Feb 25 2011, 09:50 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10163 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Many thanks for those!
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Mar 1 2011, 06:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
i am checking them for addition to the celestia motherload as i type
http://celestiamotherlode.net/ in a few days they will also be there |
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Mar 1 2011, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
It'd be great also to know how this community is using the LOLA data, so please reply if you do: Thanks for those, Erwan. I use the RDRs to generate my own surface normal map (see the previous thread). I'm looking into upgrading my network connection, as currently it takes me about a week to download each update! |
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Mar 8 2011, 10:46 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-January 10 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 5192 |
Thank you for releasing this early Erwan.
I am using the rdrs to produce datasets, maps and animations. Here is an animation using the LOLA PDS release #5 data. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GgbcRL0nA |
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Mar 8 2011, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1074 Joined: 21-September 07 From: Québec, Canada Member No.: 3908 |
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Mar 8 2011, 04:57 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-January 10 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 5192 |
Its almost certainly bad data. I automatically filter some of the bad data out but it doesn't catch everything.
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Mar 10 2011, 05:03 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
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How are you creating the 3D flybys? JR |
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Mar 10 2011, 07:54 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-January 10 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 5192 |
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I 'm using the same rendering software I wrote for visualising the Mars HiRISE data. |
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Mar 10 2011, 11:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
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I've been looking for a 3D map of the lunar north pole, specifically, a 30km radius centered at 89.55N 30W. I've downloaded the LOLA files and viewed them with LTVT, but that's as far as I've gotten with it. Is your software an adaptation of something that's available online, or is it a custom program? JR |
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Mar 11 2011, 02:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
any dem viewer will work
the lola file is in 16bit singed format the lbl has a off set to use that sets 0.5 Meters increments and in radii in Meters even the old "3DEM" will work check out Virtual Terrain Project http://vterrain.org/ http://vterrain.org/Packages/NonCom/ there is also "Integrated Data Viewer " a java application http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idv/ http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idv/d.../3DSurface.html |
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Mar 11 2011, 02:37 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
I've tried many of the standalone programs, but I don't know enough about how to manipulate the data to produce images. I'll try the Java program, though.
When I select the LOLA file, I get this error: Reading DEM: D:\My Documents\Space Mining Info\LTVT\LTVT_v0_21_3_1_full_version\LDEM_875N_10M.IMG Data object "D:\My Documents\Space Mining Info\LTVT\LTVT_v0_21_3_1_full_version\LDEM_875N_10M.IMG" not compatible with "dem" data family JR |
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Mar 11 2011, 09:58 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-January 10 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 5192 |
I've been looking for a 3D map of the lunar north pole, specifically, a 30km radius centered at 89.55N 30W. I've downloaded the LOLA files and viewed them with LTVT, but that's as far as I've gotten with it. Is your software an adaptation of something that's available online, or is it a custom program? JR It's a custom program. Here's a map of the area you mentioned. Here's another map of the north pole showing a larger area (with exagerated lighting) |
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Mar 11 2011, 10:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 4489 |
joertexas
seeing as these IMG files ( the lola img)are RAW images with NO image information in them The information is in the lbl ( label) file you open them with the appropriate PDS software or as a RAW image and you get the image size from the lbl label and img2png will do this Photoshop will even open the raw image ( though the singed format might be an issue ) |
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Mar 11 2011, 11:05 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
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I can't get img2png to start, but I was able to create a png file with Irfan. Is this what I need to do? My computer doesn't have the memory to open the resulting file in Integrated Data Viewer, so I'm not able to check if it worked. JR |
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Mar 11 2011, 11:08 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
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Mar 11 2011, 11:40 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 26-January 10 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 5192 |
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JOE & 3D *** YOU DON"T NEED TO QUOTE THE COMMENT IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING YOURS **** Thanks, I should point out that for the second image the terrain was scaled vertically by a factor of two. |
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Mar 12 2011, 10:45 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
I thought that second image looked a little lumpy compared to the other one. Now I know why
Again, great pics. If you decide to produce any low angle 3D images, that'd be wonderful, too JR |
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Mar 14 2011, 04:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 19-November 09 Member No.: 5052 |
JR,
You indicated earlier that you had already studied the LOLA DEM data with the Lunar Terminator Visualization Tool, so this is probably redundant with views you have already seen, but I am attaching some screenshots anyway. You can reproduce any of them using the input data recorded at the top and bottom of each. Your point of interest seems to be centered on the rim of Hinshelwood. These are perspective views looking north along the 30°W meridian from an Earth-like distance (since that is what LTVT is hardwired to do), and with the sun angle artificially elevated to one higher than is ever actually achieved (by setting the solar latitude to 5°N). The first view (on the left) was constructed at 240 m resolution with LOLA LDEM_75N_240M.IMG, and indicates what is apparently your 30 km diameter region of interest. The second view was made using the latest 20 m DEM (LDEM_875N_20M.IMG), but with a 100 m step size. Note that what looks like the lunar limb at top is actually not the limb, but rather the edge of the data set. The final view zooms in 5X to the full 20m resolution, but exhibits numerous rows of artifacts where I assume the data was interpolated between ground paths. With a little patience you should be able to manipulate the sub-observer and sub-solar points to generate views from different directions or with different lighting. It is also possible to use the scripting capability to generate a sequence of views which can be assembled into an animation or fly-over (either in lighting or position, or both). Hope this helps. Jim |
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Mar 14 2011, 08:04 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2251 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
It'd be great also to know how this community is using the LOLA data, so please reply if you do: 1- Experimental Data Records (EDR) [raw telemetry] 2 - Reduced Data Records (RDR) [altimetric profiles] 3 - IMG Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 4 - JP2 Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 5 - Celestia Virtual Textures I'm using (3), i.e. the LDEM*.IMG files. I did the experimental animation below from the new data release showing a flight above the Moon; the altitude is 700 km. In this case I'm using the 128 pixels/degree data which is sufficient at this altitude, field of view and frame size. This is an awesome dataset, the next step is to try out the 1024 pixels/degree data. The animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55PX9zFd020 |
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Mar 15 2011, 12:13 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 30-January 11 Member No.: 5787 |
With a little patience you should be able to manipulate the sub-observer and sub-solar points to generate views from different directions or with different lighting. It is also possible to use the scripting capability to generate a sequence of views which can be assembled into an animation or fly-over (either in lighting or position, or both). Hope this helps. I had no idea LTVT could display the DEM images. Thanks so much for pointing this out to me JR |
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Mar 28 2011, 08:22 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 27-February 10 From: Italy Member No.: 5235 |
QUOTE It'd be great also to know how this community is using the LOLA data, so please reply if you do: 1- Experimental Data Records (EDR) [raw telemetry] 2 - Reduced Data Records (RDR) [altimetric profiles] 3 - IMG Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 4 - JP2 Gridded Data Records (GDR) [maps] 5 - Celestia Virtual Textures I'm using 3. A little video with Ldem 64 Video (magnified x 4) |
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