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Star 48b Third-stage Motor, Leaving the solar system
Guido
post Jan 21 2006, 11:49 AM
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I suppose the STAR 48B third-stage, which put New Horizons on its trajectory towards Jupiter, follows about the same flight-path as the New Horizons spacecraft itself. If this is the case, will it too in the end leave our solar system?
Or has it been deflected after seperation from the spacecraft?
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tasp
post Jan 22 2006, 03:03 PM
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Both Voyagers had Centaur stages that left earth at interesting velocities in interesting directions, too. And the Voyager final solid stages would have had trajectories even closer to the the Voyagers.

Wonder what happened to them?
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Alan Stern
post Jan 22 2006, 04:10 PM
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All.

Things are going well here at the APL MOC. New Horizons is operating
virtually flawlessly. TCM 1a and 1b are planned for 28 Jan and 30 Jan,
respectively, with a total delta-V of 18 m/s-- which is far smaller than
the 92 m/s budgeted for pre-flight. Good news!

Today we are planning to complete the spacecraft's planned spin down to 5
RPM (was 68 RPM for the STAR-48 firing, is now 19.2 RPM after an open-loop
burn on launch day). Once we slow it down this afternoon, we'll do the
initial star tracker turn ons. Until then, we're still relying on the sun
sensors and IMUs-- both of which are performing very well. The s/c temps
are running a little hot, but that's just due to our attitude combined
with our <1 AU helio distance (we're inside 1 AU because we launched near
Earth's perihelion).

About the heliocentric distance, we will be inside 1 AU until late on 29
Jan UT. That makes us officially an inner planet mission for the first 10
days, I guess.

We will pass the orbit of Mars on 8 April, just a little after MRO
gets there, and it had a 5.5 month head start.

FYI-- The C/A to Jupiter is going to be at approx 6 hrs UTC on 28 Feb
2007. A better number will be forthcoming, but that is good to an accuracy
of better than an hour already. C/A is to be at 32 RJ.

Because we have to slow down in TCM-1a and TCM-1B by those 18 m/s,
our intrepid Boeing STAR-48 third stage will beat New Horizons to
Jupiter by 6 hrs. However, because it will not hit the Pluto aim point, it will not
beat us to Pluto (a relief-- can you imagine us having to be the second to
Pluto after all this, having been beat by a derelict Boeing upper stage?).
In fact, the projected C/A distance of the third stage to Pluto will be
213 million km (well over 1 AU), occurring on 15 Oct 2015.

-Alan
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- Guido   Star 48b Third-stage Motor   Jan 21 2006, 11:49 AM
- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (Guido @ Jan 21 2006, 11:49 AM)I suppos...   Jan 21 2006, 12:11 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jan 21 2006, 07:11 AM)It...   Jan 22 2006, 03:10 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 21 2006, 07:10 PM)Have ...   Jan 22 2006, 07:17 AM
|- - Alan Stern   We are setting up for our first course correction....   Jan 22 2006, 11:17 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jan 22 2006, 11:17 AM)We ...   Jan 24 2006, 12:14 AM
|- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (AlexBlackwell @ Jan 24 2006, 12:14 AM)...   Jan 24 2006, 01:08 AM
- - tasp   Too late now, and probably unworkable across the n...   Jan 21 2006, 02:38 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 21 2006, 09:38 AM)Too late ...   Jan 21 2006, 04:38 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (tasp @ Jan 21 2006, 03:38 PM)Too late ...   Jan 21 2006, 05:25 PM
- - djellison   Obviously retro reflectors work out to 400k km, bu...   Jan 21 2006, 06:33 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 21 2006, 07:33 PM)Obvi...   Jan 22 2006, 02:37 AM
|- - Comga   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 21 2006, 12:33 PM)Obvi...   Feb 2 2006, 05:57 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Comga @ Feb 2 2006, 06:57 AM)Other mis...   Feb 2 2006, 10:32 AM
||- - Comga   QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Feb 2 2006, 04:32 AM)Oh? Wh...   Feb 6 2006, 05:48 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Comga @ Feb 6 2006, 06:48 AM)A Surrey ...   Feb 6 2006, 10:35 AM
||- - ljk4-1   Earlier thread on this: http://www.unmannedspacef...   Feb 11 2006, 05:03 AM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (Comga @ Feb 2 2006, 05:57 AM)...400M k...   Feb 2 2006, 11:41 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (AndyG @ Feb 2 2006, 12:41 PM)So, surel...   Feb 2 2006, 11:55 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   When the LRRR hare was first set running I simply ...   Feb 2 2006, 12:19 PM
|- - Comga   QUOTE (ugordan @ Feb 2 2006, 05:55 AM)I can i...   Feb 6 2006, 05:40 AM
- - edstrick   Alan: Any serendipitious distant asteroid flyby...   Jan 22 2006, 12:58 PM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (edstrick @ Jan 22 2006, 06:58 AM)Alan:...   Jan 22 2006, 02:55 PM
- - tasp   Both Voyagers had Centaur stages that left earth a...   Jan 22 2006, 03:03 PM
|- - Alan Stern   All. Things are going well here at the APL MOC. N...   Jan 22 2006, 04:10 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   Thanks Alan for the detailed info. Indeed, NH will...   Jan 23 2006, 09:14 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 23 2006, 01:14 PM)Thank...   Jan 24 2006, 10:58 AM
- - Redstone   "C/A is at 32 RJ" For comparison, the o...   Jan 22 2006, 04:19 PM
|- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (Redstone @ Jan 22 2006, 04:19 PM)...   Jan 22 2006, 04:36 PM
- - Roby72   Hi Alan, hi all, after checking the Jupiter encou...   Jan 22 2006, 07:34 PM
- - djellison   But - that will put them in a good position to ima...   Jan 22 2006, 07:56 PM
|- - john_s   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 22 2006, 07:56 PM)But ...   Jan 22 2006, 10:59 PM
- - djellison   I'd thought the same Alex - the Mars policy of...   Jan 24 2006, 12:17 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 24 2006, 12:17 AM)I...   Jan 24 2006, 12:37 AM
- - djellison   Ahhh - in that case, it's going to be just res...   Jan 24 2006, 12:39 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 24 2006, 12:39 AM)Ahhh...   Jan 24 2006, 12:51 AM
- - djellison   It niggled away with me as well, I guess when you...   Jan 24 2006, 02:09 AM
- - djellison   I guess it depends if you want to include the jour...   Jan 24 2006, 11:11 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Even where actual trips from Earth to Mars itself ...   Jan 24 2006, 10:33 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Jan 24 2006, 11:33 PM)Ev...   Jan 24 2006, 11:35 PM
|- - punkboi   The third stage is 15,000 km away from NH accordin...   Jan 31 2006, 06:08 PM
- - Katie B   With the third stage's passing of Pluto's ...   Aug 16 2015, 12:47 AM
- - djellison   Correct.   Aug 16 2015, 02:06 AM


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