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post Dec 1 2005, 02:52 PM
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Voyager - A message from Earth

Saturday 19 November 2005

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Jon Lomberg is an artist who could be called portrait painter to the cosmos. He illustrated most of Carl Sagan's books and articles and his paintings and multi-media presentations of astronomy have made him well known around the world. He's talking about the message he designed which was sent on Voyager II from the people of Earth to whoever might hear it in space.

Program Transcript:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ss/stories/s1505986.htm


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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post Jan 26 2006, 10:19 AM
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Such a response is equally likely from the plaque. They might find the sounds from earth on the disk just as offensive as the sounds of reality TV smile.gif

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QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 26 2006, 05:19 AM)
Such a response is equally likely from the plaque.  They might find the sounds  from earth on the disk just as offensive as the sounds of reality TV smile.gif

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Pretend you have never heard of Earth or humans before. What would you imagine these sounds on the Voyager Record to be from:

http://re-lab.net/welcome/sounds2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record

In Carl Sagan's The Cosmic Connection, there is a great section reproduced from the old British Punch magazine imagining how different ETI who encounter the Pioneer Plaque react to it. The spindly beings who look like the pulsar map are especially put off, as the lines are positioned in the rudest way imaginable.

http://www.stmarys.ca/academic/conted/webc...le1/page01.html

http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/cata...isbn=0521783038

There is also a great SF story in the old Omni magazine from 1978 about one of the Voyagers going through a black hole and splitting into numerous copies of itself into different parallel universes. Some very different ETI find the probe and its record, all having very different reactions to it. The last part is entwined with the actual Amoy language greeting that asks the ETI if they have eaten yet and to please come visit us when they have the time. cool.gif

http://re-lab.net/welcome/lang.html


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"After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance.
I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard,
and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does
not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is
indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have
no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

- Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853

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|- - paxdan   <42> i seem to be having tremendous difficu...   Jan 26 2006, 11:12 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 26 2006, 05:19 AM)Such...   Jan 26 2006, 02:01 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 26 2006, 02:01 PM)Pr...   Jan 26 2006, 02:33 PM
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