Beagle 2 in HiRISE, Possible Targets Options

[prometheus]

Beagle Splat?





Looks like the main chute didn't fully deploy and Beagle 2 hit hard.

[ustrax]

Beagle Splat?

Could you give a more exact location?

[djellison]

You're zoomed out by about 5x... to give you a sense of scale - this is at 100% - and is the area you mark as 3 airbags is actually two small craters and a pile of rocks. what you mark as Heatshield is infact a bright dune.


Doug

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[prometheus]

Are we looking at the same area?

[djellison]

Yes - you're zoomed out a huge ammount - perhaps firefox has downsized the image to fit in your browser window?

Doug

[prometheus]

I used Stereo Photo Maker with the 2.5 Mb jpg image. Will download the jp2 and check again. I guess you have done that. Pitty that, it was all there, in a line and what one would expect of a very vertical rapid foiled chute descent.

The three rocks around the dark cross shape with an attached medium bright rock sure looks interesting.

[prometheus]

I used the wrong image scale. Sorry for that.

[ustrax]

I know that I promised to stand still and I also know that you guys are not great fans of this kind of pseudo-perspective but I couldn't avoid it...

But it might help one way or the other.

It looks to me that the spot I indicated is not an artifact, if you look to this image it looks like there is a crater under it and some shadowing.
This also helps me imagine how painful might have been Beagle's end...
Who knows if it might just crumbled down the hill on it's back, does anyone see a parachute there?

[ugordan]

What do you gain by reprojecting the image like that, Ustrax?

That bright feature (artifact ?) does look interesting, though. Still, it seems like a lucky shot to be finding it in the first of the strips covering the entire landing ellipse.

[ustrax]

ugordan, some sense of perspective I don't get with the original one...
It would REALLY be a lucky shot, as I told previously it is just a candidate...
But hey! If it was done once...

[djellison]

I used Stereo Photo Maker with the 2.5 Mb jpg image.

THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.

Instead of looking at a 2048 x 4983 image - get the full-fat 812Mb 28247 x 68730 image

Doug

[djellison]

After The BA mentioned Emily's blog entry about this HiRISE image - Andrew commented on a feature that I've pulled out of PSP_002347_1915_RED_r2c3.png - Alex will be calling it house rock before too long although to be fair - that segment off to the left does look like the orange-segment sort of shape one would expect from the airbags....BUT....if the vehicle was healthy enough to fire the pyyros to drop away from the airbags - one would expect a working vehicle on the surface.

The 'killer find' still has to be either the 10m diameter parachute or a fresh crater + debris.

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[ElkGroveDan]

The 'killer find' still has to be either the 10m diameter parachute or a fresh crater + debris.

Which is why I think we won't have a problem identifying it when it's imaged - it just hasn't been imaged yet. There's a whole lot of that ellipse that still needs examining. I'm guessing it's up-range.

[elakdawalla]

Why up-range? Wouldn't it be down-range if parts of the EDL system (especially the parachute) didn't work correctly?

--Emily

[ElkGroveDan]

I wasn't pegging it the failure on EDL malfunctions. I was thinking of atmospheric aberrations as the cause. (But I haven't really put a lot of thought into it.)