MARDI images and videos |
MARDI images and videos |
Aug 7 2012, 05:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 5-January 10 Member No.: 5161 |
Here's a HiRISE/MARDI comparison. I was short on time, hence the sloppiness!
If you doubt the final guess at the three small craters just near the landing site, download the YouTube video of the descent sequence and scrub (play forward and reverse many times) that final sequence and you can't miss those three craters that stand out in triangle formation. The crater marking the top point of the triangle is where the initial blast of the thrusters hit. Then a few moments later the rover seems to hover just a bit just to the right of the crater marking the lower right point of the triangle. After which the crater quickly slips up and out of view just before touchdown. What a blast! North is approx. to the left. EDIT: replaced original image with this corrected one: |
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Aug 7 2012, 06:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 5-January 10 Member No.: 5161 |
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Aug 7 2012, 06:06 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3242 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
Thank you, walfy, I was hoping someone would take a crack at that kind of analysis.
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Aug 7 2012, 06:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 2-May 05 Member No.: 372 |
Walfy, your first image is mismatched (possibly throwing off the ones that follow, as well). Here's a correction:
(click for full size and download) |
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Aug 7 2012, 06:41 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 13-June 08 Member No.: 4206 |
Regarding the amount of dust kicked up by the descent thrusters.. It seems to me more than expected. Or am I just "preconditioned" by the non-thruster-landings of Sojourner and MER A/B; which resulted in initial sterile-looking appearances. Did the amount surprise the folks back at MC?
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Aug 7 2012, 07:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 5-January 10 Member No.: 5161 |
Walfy, your first image is mismatched (possibly throwing off the ones that follow, as well). Wow, that was sloppy! Thanks for spotting that, and for the nice way of comparing all of it in B&W. I've changed the image, updated my previous post. I'm still pretty sure the lower right crater in the triangle was the one which was nearly hovered over momentarily. |
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Aug 7 2012, 10:41 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 1595 |
Hello, I hope this is the correct thread - am posting in this one as I noticed previous discussion of the descent sequence imagery here. I'm wondering how much info could be derived about the MSL's hazard avoidance strategies from the sequence? I would suppose quite a lot - even as a non-expert I can see some horizontal motion ... wondering specifically about MSL's ability to choose the best landing spot. I realize the terrain is pretty benign already, but closer to the surface there must have must been some hazard avoidance? - BTW elsewhere, someone has also asked about the video indicating the descent stage shifting away from the parachute after separation, but I'm assuming the camera was only turned on after that separation?
Thanks and regards, Daniel -------------------- Daniel
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Aug 7 2012, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 2262 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Melbourne - Oz Member No.: 16 |
No, MSL had no ability to perform hazard avoidance for surface features. The only hazard avoidance manoeuvre was just after release from the backshell when a horizontal manoeuvre was performed to remove any risk of recontacting the backshell/parachute.
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Aug 7 2012, 10:56 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 1595 |
No, MSL had no ability to perform hazard avoidance for surface features. The only hazard avoidance manoeuvre was just after release from the backshell when a horizontal manoeuvre was performed to remove any risk of recontacting the backshell/parachute. Thanks James - so then, would any horizontal motions in the video be from other causes, for instance the descent stage moving to stabilize the rover? (compensating for pendulum motion for instance?) -------------------- Daniel
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Aug 7 2012, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1465 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Columbus OH USA Member No.: 13 |
No, MSL had no ability to perform hazard avoidance for surface features. During the landing the EDL commentator said "we found a nice flat place, we're coming in ready for skycrane" (around 28:17 in this video). I wonder what he meant by that--that they just passively found a nice flat place? By what means did they get a measure of the flatness? -------------------- |
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Aug 7 2012, 11:04 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 14-July 06 Member No.: 972 |
BTW elsewhere, someone has also asked about the video indicating the descent stage shifting away from the parachute after separation, but I'm assuming the camera was only turned on after that separation? Daniel No the MARDI (Descent Imager) began taking pictures just before the heat shield was jettisoned during the parachute phase of the descent. See http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakda...and-part-2.html and the other resources linked in the FAQ thread at the top of this forum for a complete timeline of EDL events. I can't really tell which motion in the descent image video is caused by the divert maneuver. The noticeable movement at about 18 seconds into the video seems more twisting than anything else. |
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Aug 7 2012, 11:15 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 13-January 07 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 1595 |
No the MARDI (Descent Imager) began taking pictures just before the heat shield was jettisoned during the parachute phase of the descent. See http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakda...and-part-2.html and the other resources linked in the FAQ thread at the top of this forum for a complete timeline of EDL events. Thanks ... -------------------- Daniel
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Aug 7 2012, 11:24 AM
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I would have preferred a version at the correct speed. This one shows the last 2 and a half minutes of descent, yet lasts only about one minute. Looking forward to the full-size version with perhaps even some interpolated, generated images. |
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Aug 8 2012, 01:58 AM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Geez, the MARDI images have been on the MSL raws page for hours. Are you guys asleep at the wheel? Where's the image magery?
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Aug 8 2012, 02:03 AM
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