MSL at Rocknest, First scoop samples - sols 57-101 |
MSL at Rocknest, First scoop samples - sols 57-101 |
Nov 6 2012, 08:04 PM
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#404
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
Sol 90 thumbnails show the SAM inlet ports. I really, really hope this means they're ready to deliver that first soil sample to SAM...
(Yes, even I am getting impatient!) I wonder if one aspect of this is going to be representative of the rest of the mission: that if they decide a site is worth SAMming, we should settle down for a long wait of several weeks or even a month. -------------------- My website - My Patreon - @elakdawalla on Twitter - Please support unmannedspaceflight.com by donating here.
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Nov 6 2012, 08:12 PM
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#405
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1419 Joined: 26-July 08 Member No.: 4270 |
I was under the impression from a previous teleconference that the first one will take so long because it is the first, and that future analyses will go faster.
-------------------- -- Hungry4info (Sirius_Alpha)
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Nov 6 2012, 09:03 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 17-May 08 Member No.: 4114 |
I wonder if one aspect of this is going to be representative of the rest of the mission: that if they decide a site is worth SAMming, we should settle down for a long wait of several weeks or even a month. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought the initial plan called for the first SAM sample within days of the first ChemMin run. This suggests there might have been some 'funnies' in SAM commissioning. Wouldn't be surprising for such a complex instrument, and if so, I'd expect things to go a lot quicker for the later runs. |
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Nov 6 2012, 09:56 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
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Nov 6 2012, 11:03 PM
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#408
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 17-May 08 Member No.: 4114 |
The first run of Chemin was finished by sol 73: http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/news/category...f-chemin-online I guess you can call any period of time "within days" but most of us would call that weeks. The telecon discussing Chemin results was a week ago, and covered two sample deliveries.
I'm pretty sure the telecon prior to the start scooping sketched out a somewhat shorter timeline. IIRC, at the time it was suggested the second delivery would go to both SAM and Chemin, within a few of sols of the first Chemin run. In the end, it went to Chemin only. None of this is a big deal. I'm not complaining, or saying the team mislead us. These things are uncertain and the team are always good about making it clear any future schedule is tentative. All I'm saying is that the timeline appears to have been slightly behind what was outlined at the start, and that might suggest some teething issues. |
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Nov 6 2012, 11:31 PM
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Administrator Group: Admin Posts: 5172 Joined: 4-August 05 From: Pasadena, CA, USA, Earth Member No.: 454 |
...and although I am complaining, I am not criticizing the team. I'm sure they're doing what needs to be done. Meanwhile, I'm heartened by the following:
QUOTE ('Vandi Tompkins') On sol 90, a marvelous dry run of our mechanism-SAM sample co-ordination dance and contact science in mahli images!
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Nov 7 2012, 04:28 AM
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#410
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Member Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 23-October 12 From: Russia Member No.: 6725 |
It was funny.
MR - sol 59 , ChemCam - sols 57, 77, 82, 84 The line in the middle - from the laser. Big size 3234x1500 (1mb) -------------------- My blog on Patreon
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Nov 7 2012, 05:39 AM
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Very interesting...These tapering vugs are apparently not vacancies left behind by eroded crystals as Opportunity found at Meridiani, or are they?
Nice work. -------------------- ...Tom
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Nov 7 2012, 06:54 AM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
First time use of two astonishingly complex lab instruments was always going to take a while. I'm fairly sure we'll have dozens upon dozens of instances in 2013 when we're wishing they would put the brakes on
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Nov 7 2012, 08:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 23-October 12 From: Russia Member No.: 6725 |
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Nov 7 2012, 02:19 PM
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What makes you say she moved? There are no post-drive hazcams.
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Nov 7 2012, 02:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
She hasn't moved. The engineering rawids have something akin to a site/drive counter that has proven reliable. (So far.)
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Nov 7 2012, 02:56 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: 23-October 12 From: Russia Member No.: 6725 |
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Nov 7 2012, 03:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3431 Joined: 11-August 04 From: USA Member No.: 98 |
Doesn't even look like the same rock to me. I guess it could be. But your first image appears to be from sol 59 - about two hours before the last small drive.
Identifying the site can be tricky since the science images don't have it in the rawid. I have to first put together a list of all of the images, sort them by time pulled off the web site, then keep track of the 'site/drive' (or whatever they're calling it for MSL) from the engineering rawids while going through the list. (I think I'm doing that now because sol 59 tricked me earlier, actually.) Great colorizations earlier. |
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Nov 7 2012, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4246 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
Way cooler than having your name etched on a microchip on Mars is having your actual handwriting on Mars:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/ms...0000E1_DXXX.jpg |
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