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An Xtra leg for Xtra power for Xtra imaging !, Tilting Phoenix for Xtra weeks of activity before winter...
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post Jun 4 2008, 07:47 PM
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smile.gif My dream would be the SSI seeing the built-up of heavy patches of frost around Phoenix during the autumn before her winter shut-off...
... with some gathering of meteorological data as well !
I was impressed to see how quick the energy available will drop before the autumn equinox
(see link : http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.p...t&p=116809)

Knowing that the Robotic Arm (RA) is strong enough to lift the lander, why not using it as an Xtra leg to tilt her to gain Xtra sunlight on its solar panels and, thus, some Xtra weeks of imaging and meteo activities ? wink.gif
Rationale :
- Anyway Phoenix will die from cold : no survability is expected after winter ;
- After an extensive use for trenching, the RA will thus no longer be useful, except from being parked ;
- could the RA be parked in any position ?
- Luckily the RA is almost facing north...
Then, why not using it to push firmly on the Martian surface to tilt the Lander towards the south, to help her solar panels receive Xtra weeks of sunlight ?

==> Tilting Phoenix with the RA for Xtra weeks of activities : a feasible dream ? rolleyes.gif
What are the opinions of our s/c hardware specialists ? Was it discussed before ?
(...and, please help, help MarsEngineer ! ohmy.gif )
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- vikingmars   An Xtra leg for Xtra power for Xtra imaging !   Jun 4 2008, 07:47 PM
- - Oersted   good job thinking outside the box!   Jun 4 2008, 08:06 PM
- - kungpostyle   It would be cool but I doubt the arm has the stren...   Jun 4 2008, 08:12 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (kungpostyle @ Jun 4 2008, 10:12 PM...   Jun 4 2008, 08:28 PM
|- - pioneer   QUOTE (kungpostyle @ Jun 4 2008, 09:12 PM...   Jun 4 2008, 08:39 PM
- - Oersted   The question of using the rockets was discussed in...   Jun 4 2008, 08:45 PM
- - climber   This is a great idea. They'll have to chose be...   Jun 4 2008, 08:55 PM
- - djellison   I can pull myself along easily with one arm. I ca...   Jun 4 2008, 09:00 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 4 2008, 11:00 PM) ...   Jun 4 2008, 09:21 PM
|- - AndyG   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 4 2008, 10:00 PM) ...   Jun 5 2008, 08:33 AM
|- - jmknapp   How about this idea to get a picture of the frost:...   Jun 5 2008, 12:55 PM
- - Ant103   Or they could try to dig under one foot of the lan...   Jun 4 2008, 09:31 PM
|- - climber   QUOTE (Ant103 @ Jun 4 2008, 11:31 PM) Or ...   Jun 4 2008, 09:35 PM
|- - helvick   It's an interesting out of the box idea but I ...   Jun 4 2008, 10:26 PM
- - Oersted   What we should rather do is having the arm grab th...   Jun 4 2008, 10:54 PM
- - MarsEngineer   Hi Vikingmars! Your suggestion about using th...   Jun 4 2008, 11:32 PM
- - hendric   How many amp-hours are the lander batteries anyway...   Jun 5 2008, 01:39 PM
|- - helvick   There are two rated at 25 Amp Hours each - that...   Jun 5 2008, 01:57 PM
|- - MahFL   I think we are going to see plenty of frost anyway...   Jun 5 2008, 02:12 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (MahFL @ Jun 5 2008, 04:12 PM) I th...   Jun 5 2008, 08:42 PM
- - lyford   If they do end up tilting or dragging themselves a...   Jun 5 2008, 04:36 PM
|- - Oersted   Using the Dysfunctional Rove Arm Grabbing proce...   Jun 5 2008, 04:57 PM
- - ngunn   Can the arm push as hard as it can pull? If so wou...   Jun 5 2008, 04:53 PM
- - ngunn   Phoenix Unplanned Sideways Hike   Jun 5 2008, 05:02 PM
- - climber   Let's Discover Ice Guys, first   Jun 5 2008, 05:14 PM
- - Oersted   Nooooooooo   Jun 5 2008, 05:41 PM
- - climber   Hi PhoenixMars! I take you idea very seriously...   Jun 5 2008, 08:54 PM
|- - vikingmars   Hello Climber ! Nice words from you ! No, ...   Jun 5 2008, 09:31 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (climber @ Jun 5 2008, 10:54 PM) Us...   Jun 5 2008, 11:24 PM
- - brianc   Apologies if   Jun 6 2008, 10:16 AM
- - djellison   Compare the charts on post 12 of this thread. At ...   Jun 6 2008, 11:15 AM
|- - MahFL   One of the Phoenix team said they will see frost b...   Jun 6 2008, 11:51 AM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (djellison @ Jun 6 2008, 01:15 PM) ...   Jun 6 2008, 01:15 PM
|- - brianc   Apologies if not correct Forum as I'm normally...   Jun 6 2008, 03:05 PM
|- - MahFL   That sounds like a good idea.   Jun 6 2008, 04:30 PM
|- - vikingmars   QUOTE (brianc @ Jun 6 2008, 05:05 PM) Thi...   Jun 6 2008, 08:21 PM
- - alan   It Phoenix was able to use its arm to change its t...   Jun 6 2008, 07:00 PM
- - Stu   Guys, guys... if we're going to do this, let...   Jun 6 2008, 08:51 PM
|- - phase4   QUOTE (Stu @ Jun 6 2008, 10:51 PM) Guys, ...   Jun 6 2008, 09:49 PM
- - hendric   Well, we do have lights on the end of the RAC now,...   Jun 9 2008, 08:29 PM
- - fredk   Plant a rock on top? Hmmm... Remember this is an...   Jun 9 2008, 08:55 PM
- - Ken McLean   (Long time lurker, first time poster. Hi) Just go...   Jun 10 2008, 02:40 PM
- - helvick   Interesting questions Ken. The panels don't...   Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM
|- - Ken McLean   QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 12 2008, 07:05 AM) A...   Jun 19 2008, 11:41 AM
- - tasp   Surprising amount of interest has been shown here ...   Jun 11 2008, 09:44 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (tasp @ Jun 11 2008, 09:44 PM) Surp...   Jun 19 2008, 12:00 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Since a kilogram is a unit of mass, not force, it ...   Jun 19 2008, 02:30 PM
|- - Ken McLean   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Jun 20 2008, 12:3...   Jun 20 2008, 04:30 AM
- - Juramike   Wow! Interesting discussion and thank you ver...   Jun 19 2008, 03:00 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Juramike @ Jun 19 2008, 04:00 PM) ...   Jun 19 2008, 05:58 PM
|- - imipak   QUOTE (helvick @ Jun 19 2008, 06:58 PM) ....   Jun 19 2008, 06:52 PM
- - jekbradbury   Solar panels, by their very nature, are intended t...   Jun 19 2008, 03:14 PM
- - Juramike   I'm guessing that the CO2 deposition would sta...   Jun 19 2008, 08:08 PM
- - fredk   But frost deposition would start at night, and at ...   Jun 19 2008, 08:48 PM
- - Juramike   I'm assuming that the transfer of heat by air ...   Jun 20 2008, 01:19 AM
- - dvandorn   There's one phenomenon we're all forgettin...   Jun 20 2008, 05:34 AM
- - lyford   Thar she blows!   Jun 20 2008, 02:34 PM
- - Oersted   Well, seems we just found out that Phoenix is sitt...   Jun 21 2008, 09:00 AM
- - tuvas   Hmmm... I asked about the possibilities of using t...   Jul 11 2008, 04:52 AM


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