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First real challenge to General Relativity?, (and not from Gravity Probe-B)
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post Mar 23 2006, 09:50 PM
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...in the form of what may be an accidentally discovered artificial gravity generator, with possible practical applications!:
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

If this effect is real, it's fully 1/10,000 G -- which is not to be sneezed at, and might conceivably lead us to Bigger Things.
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post Mar 25 2006, 10:18 PM
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Jeffrey Bell, ever the party-pooper, sends me the following E-mail:

"These gentlemen have previously published theoretical papers on this
effect in three journals:

"INDIAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICS
JOURNAL OF THEORETICS (sic)
PHYSICA C

"These are all fringe physics journals. PHYSICA C published Polednikov's
now-discredited gravity screening work. I'll wait for this 'discovery'
to appear in PHYSICS REVIEW, like most serious work in this field."
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post Mar 26 2006, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 26 2006, 12:18 AM) *
Jeffrey Bell, ever the party-pooper, sends me the following E-mail:

"These gentlemen have previously published theoretical papers on this
effect in three journals:

"INDIAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICS
JOURNAL OF THEORETICS (sic)
PHYSICA C

"These are all fringe physics journals. PHYSICA C published Polednikov's
now-discredited gravity screening work. I'll wait for this 'discovery'
to appear in PHYSICS REVIEW, like most serious work in this field."


I suppose he means Physical Review?

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- BruceMoomaw   First real challenge to General Relativity?   Mar 23 2006, 09:50 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   The actual paper ( http://esamultimedia.esa.int/do...   Mar 23 2006, 10:14 PM
- - ugordan   Weren't there experiments and claims (by a rus...   Mar 23 2006, 10:17 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Sorry about the misspelling. Their actual passage...   Mar 23 2006, 10:29 PM
|- - ugordan   Very interesting, indeed. Though I have a hard tim...   Mar 23 2006, 10:38 PM
- - tty   If the effect is proportional to speed of rotation...   Mar 23 2006, 10:52 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (tty @ Mar 23 2006, 11:52 PM) If th...   Mar 23 2006, 10:57 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I believe -- although I may be wrong, given my Mr....   Mar 24 2006, 02:32 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 24 2006, 03:32 A...   Mar 24 2006, 08:14 AM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 24 2006, 01:14 AM) N...   Mar 24 2006, 03:22 PM
- - The Messenger   This is going to be very difficult to confirm, and...   Mar 24 2006, 06:18 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   The Lens-Thiring effect, or magnetogravitationnal ...   Mar 24 2006, 08:32 AM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 24 2006, 09...   Mar 24 2006, 09:05 AM
||- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 24 2006, 10:05 AM) O...   Mar 24 2006, 09:49 AM
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||- - dtolman   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 24 2006, 04:55 AM) S...   Mar 24 2006, 03:02 PM
||- - gpurcell   QUOTE (dtolman @ Mar 24 2006, 03:02 PM) S...   Mar 24 2006, 04:15 PM
|||- - The Messenger   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Mar 24 2006, 09:15 AM) ...   Mar 24 2006, 04:36 PM
||- - nprev   QUOTE (dtolman @ Mar 24 2006, 07:02 AM) E...   Mar 24 2006, 08:08 PM
|- - Marz   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 24 2006, 02...   Mar 24 2006, 09:07 PM
|- - Richard Trigaux   [quote name='Marz' date='Mar 24 2006, ...   Mar 24 2006, 09:44 PM
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||- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (Marz @ Mar 25 2006, 12:00 AM) Than...   Mar 25 2006, 07:38 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Marz @ Mar 24 2006, 01:07 PM) Ok.....   Mar 25 2006, 06:11 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 25 2006, 07:11 AM) (Re...   Mar 25 2006, 08:35 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 25 2006, 12...   Mar 25 2006, 09:08 AM
|- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 25 2006, 10:08 AM) You...   Mar 25 2006, 04:54 PM
|- - ugordan   Why is it that any out-of-the ordinary claim has t...   Mar 25 2006, 05:02 PM
||- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 25 2006, 06:02 PM) W...   Mar 25 2006, 06:25 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Richard: It's not just the facts of science w...   Mar 25 2006, 10:28 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Oops. I was indeed wrong about the definition of ...   Mar 24 2006, 03:35 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   Heeeeemmmm... many wild speculations in latest po...   Mar 24 2006, 08:33 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 24 2006, 01...   Mar 24 2006, 09:49 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I can vouch for the fact that quantum gravity theo...   Mar 24 2006, 09:36 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Jeffrey Bell, ever the party-pooper, sends me the ...   Mar 25 2006, 10:18 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 03:18 P...   Mar 26 2006, 01:26 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 26 2006, 12:18 A...   Mar 26 2006, 05:01 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Did Jay Ward ever say just WHERE that Upsidaisium ...   Mar 26 2006, 04:14 AM
- - dvandorn   Ummm... directly over the vault where the formula ...   Mar 26 2006, 04:42 AM
- - nprev   From Wikipedia's article on Boris Badenov, inf...   Mar 26 2006, 05:29 AM
- - edstrick   Bob Shaw: "Or we could just put a Caution: Ma...   Mar 26 2006, 09:22 AM
- - Richard Trigaux   Sorry ugordan, but seemingly I am not alone to be ...   Mar 26 2006, 08:28 PM
- - ugordan   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 26 2006, 10...   Mar 26 2006, 09:04 PM
- - Richard Trigaux   QUOTE (ugordan @ Mar 26 2006, 10:04 PM) C...   Mar 26 2006, 09:17 PM
- - ugordan   QUOTE (Richard Trigaux @ Mar 26 2006, 11...   Mar 26 2006, 09:23 PM


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