Pool: Arrival at Victoria, Place your bets... |
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Pool: Arrival at Victoria, Place your bets... |
 Aug 5 2005, 10:49 PM
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Sol 721 at 4.15 PM local time, plus or minus 30 minutes.
(There is some margin in my calculations folks...) Although I'm afraid a big dust storm will get us first... |
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Aug 5 2005, 11:55 PM
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Sol 747. (About 100 sols getting to/investigating/driving around Erebus, then 15 weeks to Victoria.) And I like Doug's definition: first sol with a picture of the dunes in the crater.
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Aug 6 2005, 06:59 AM
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I'll go for Sol 696. Just a wild guess.
-------------------- - My signature idea machine is busted right now.
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Aug 6 2005, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (deglr6328 @ Aug 5 2005, 03:28 PM) sol 600 (via massive rogue dust devil  ) Have to watch out, though, or Oppy just might land on a Wicked Witch... -the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Aug 6 2005, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 3419 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Member No.: 15 |
I'm in for Sol 717.
-the other Doug -------------------- “The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.” -Mark Twain
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Aug 6 2005, 12:56 PM
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Sol 875 - limping on 4 good wheels.
-------------------- Jonathan Ward
Manning the LCC at http://www.apollolaunchcontrol.com |
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Aug 6 2005, 04:16 PM
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Sol 688. I think we will discover that most of the bedrock here is similar what we have already seen before. This may speed up things just a tad bit.
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Aug 6 2005, 04:32 PM
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Just wondering: how high is the rim of Victoria Crater? What material is the ejecta blanket made of?
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Aug 6 2005, 04:36 PM
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722, while driving backwards.
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Aug 6 2005, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 5 2005, 05:57 PM) I go with ObsessedWithWorlds. I am sort of sick of this obsession with Victoria. ........ I seem to remember that Etched terrain also has significant altitude changes, meaning that it might actually show more layers than Victoria. .... People should appreciate more where we *are*. I go with akuo.  No predictions from me until we get to a point midway between Erebus and Victoria that has been labeled "Hell of a View." It's all downhill from that location!  Jack |
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Aug 6 2005, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE I go with akuo. We get there when we get there. In the meantime, let's enjoy the journey...  --Bill -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2005, 09:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 24-March 04 From: Finland Member No.: 63 |
QUOTE (Nirgal @ Aug 5 2005, 10:27 PM) QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 5 2005, 11:57 PM) People should appreciate more where we *are*. when reading the posts in this board one can sense an overhelming appreciation of this mission, of what has been reached so far and of the people at JPL enabling it ... almost every serious post is full of this sense of appreciation and gratefulness (that's why I love this forum above so many other discussion boards. You misunderstand, the fact that the mission is appreciated is self-evident. I was just looking for some appreciation for Etched terrain, where we have now arrived. Steve Squyres and Joy Crips identified the Etched terrain as the science target after Endurance, not Victoria. Etched terrain around Oppy now covers an area by far larger than Victoria. If you look at the high resolution image of Oppy's landing ellpise, you can see that Etched terrain is a very common type of terrain in Meridiani. Now people seem to want to use this as just a bounding board to (yet) another crater. That Oppy should speed as fast as it can through this terrain, with minimal investigations. I disagree with this. I think Oppy should spend at least as much time investigating this terrain as was spent on Endurance. -------------------- Antti Kuosmanen
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Aug 7 2005, 10:28 AM
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777 - I think it depends on how interesting the etched terrain turns out to be.
QUOTE (akuo @ Aug 6 2005, 10:27 PM) Etched terrain around Oppy now covers an area by far larger than Victoria. If you look at the high resolution image of Oppy's landing ellpise, you can see that Etched terrain is a very common type of terrain in Meridiani. So are the dune fields. However, once they have established the ground truth for the etched terrain. Confirmed what seems obvious (top layer all the way) with some hard data, i think that the possibililty of older layers being visible/accessible at victoria represent the deepest-time window into meridiani's history Oppy will get. That still remains one of the most important objectives of the mission. . |
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Aug 7 2005, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1636 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Lima, Peru Member No.: 385 |
I am afraid that the MER project might be cut sooner, before than MER arrives at Victoria's Crater. See the last Squyres' last post on July 29,2005. He is commeting much about the MER's personnel as an introduction of what migh happen in the future. Visit at the at the Athena's Cornell Web
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Aug 7 2005, 05:56 PM
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The MER Mission has been extended until September 2006, so no problem there.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...mer-040505.html As to the scientists and other personnel, I don't see anything in Dr Squyres report that would or could jeopardize the MER mission. http://athena.cornell.edu/news/mubss/  
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