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Apollo Sites from LRO
robspace54
post Jul 18 2009, 02:14 AM
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This one is a vertical view from the Eagle during rendezvous. Note the CM below and the "estimated" landing point.
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post Jul 18 2009, 08:51 AM
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Belleraphon1, even before reading your posts re the Apollo 14 landing site, I was pretty sure I saw tracks wandering off to the east/north east. And this is exactly in the direction of Cone Crater! BTW, I am not as up on my Apollo history as I should be, but the edge of Cone Crater is about 1 km from the landing site. That's pretty nervy, walking that distance from the [relative] security of the LEM!

robspace54, i's a very useful diagram you've dug up, of the various camera angles etc. around the Apollo 11 landing site.
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (jekbradbury @ Jul 17 2009, 08:02 PM) *
Another attempt on the A11 image, using GIMP's Destripe filter and two runs of the NEDI upscaling algorithm:


Does anyone else see a black dot in the approximate location the flag was? Can't tell if it's a small crater, a processing artifact, or if something is actually casting a shadow. I know that the LMP said the flag blew over - I just think this is an interesting coincidence.


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post Jul 18 2009, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (glennwsmith @ Jul 18 2009, 03:51 AM) *
Belleraphon1, even before reading your posts re the Apollo 14 landing site, I was pretty sure I saw tracks wandering off to the east/north east. And this is exactly in the direction of Cone Crater! BTW, I am not as up on my Apollo history as I should be, but the edge of Cone Crater is about 1 km from the landing site. That's pretty nervy, walking that distance from the [relative] security of the LEM!

robspace54, i's a very useful diagram you've dug up, of the various camera angles etc. around the Apollo 11 landing site.


As for nervy, think about where they were and what they were doing!

I can also see that black dot, but based on the "map" it looks too close to the descent stage. BUT... if you look almost due south about 3 "LMs" away the EASEP seismometer is visible. It is a rectangular looking blob, long axis north-south, with a shadow to the east.

I also "see" the LRRR just meters north of the seismometer.

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post Jul 18 2009, 01:52 PM
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ADMIN EDIT

Looks like Pierre Mion got it right!

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post Jul 18 2009, 04:30 PM
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Here's the Apollo 14 landing site, with the same processing:
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post Jul 18 2009, 04:40 PM
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This processing technique "doubles" some of the small craters, does it? I assume it's due to the compression? Or is it just my imagination too? Both this and the A11 site look like they have rabbit or deer prints across them.


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Phil Stooke
post Jul 18 2009, 04:41 PM
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A bit more on Apollo 14:

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The tracks from Station A to Station B are very clear, even the little loop they did at Station B around a little crater. Tracks from LM to A are visible too. I can't see the return tracks from Station G around North Triplet at all.

(no crater doubling here - it's all in how you deal with the stripes!)

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post Jul 18 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (robspace54 @ Jul 18 2009, 08:26 AM) *
As for nervy, think about where they were and what they were doing!

I can also see that black dot, but based on the "map" it looks too close to the descent stage. BUT... if you look almost due south about 3 "LMs" away the EASEP seismometer is visible. It is a rectangular looking blob, long axis north-south, with a shadow to the east.

I also "see" the LRRR just meters north of the seismometer.

Rob


glennwsmith and robspace54.... yeah that is why Apollo 14 is one of my favorite missions. They were really extending their EVA reach, given no Rover.

Any yeah, I am pretty confidant now those are the tracks going NE. They follow the mission plot pretty well.
Cannot wait to see Cone Crater.

Listen to the transcipts here
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/a14.html
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post Jul 18 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke)
The tracks from Station A to Station B are very clear, even the little loop they did at Station B around a little crater. Tracks from LM to A are visible too. I can't see the return tracks from Station G around North Triplet at all.

Amazing processing! It almost seems dead certain that all of the site images will have clear EVA trails when LRO is done.

Rob, you've convinced me about the '11 seismometer.

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post Jul 18 2009, 06:04 PM
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Can't wait for Apollo 12 and the images of an actual unmanned spacecraft smile.gif

BTW, this thread is phenomenal. I am in awe at how fast board members update the imagery with the dialog- moving at the speed of thought!


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post Jul 18 2009, 08:19 PM
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This is Apollo 17 station 6, the big split boulder. If you compare it with my first view of it (page 2 of this thread), this is much better. This is from the raw TIFF file, which is much better to work with than the zoomify version. Thanks, Mark Robinson, for letting us have this so soon.

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PS - there's a fantastic mountaintop south of the valley at this site with a huge cluster of boulders on it.


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post Jul 18 2009, 09:11 PM
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This is Apollo 17 station 5 on the edge of Camelot crater. It's the place where the famous images of an astronaut in a dramatic boulder field were taken. The rocks are visible along the rim, but no tracks I can make out.

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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jul 18 2009, 10:11 PM) *
It's the place where the famous images of an astronaut in a dramatic boulder field were taken.


This one..?

http://www.lpod.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/Ap17-pan.jpg


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post Jul 18 2009, 09:56 PM
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Yes, that one. Pretty nice, huh?

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