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Cape York, Landfall!
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:23 PM
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This armchair geologist is at a total loss. The only preconception I had of Cape York that may hold true is that the large blocks of Odyssey ejecta may yet turn out to be basaltic boulders. That and a scattering of blueberries indicating that concretion forming sulfate layers once covered Cape York. But have the sulfate layers been entirely eroded away? I can't wait to see what the MI and APXS will reveal!

The only thing I know for sure: When Opportunity moves to the edge of Odyssey, she will be sitting on the rim of a crater... on the rim of a crater!
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (centsworth_II @ Aug 11 2011, 03:23 PM) *
When Opportunity moves to the edge of Odyssey, she will be sitting on the rim of a crater... on the rim of a crater!


...and when HiRISE takes its first pic of Oppy after landfall, it should look something like this...

http://twitpic.com/64ehoa/full



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post Aug 11 2011, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (Stu @ Aug 11 2011, 10:34 AM) *
...should look something like this...
How tiny she is!
Looking at the size scale of Oppy to Odyssey to CY to Endeavour, is like comparing a viral particle to a bacterium to a skin cell to a finger tip!
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post Aug 11 2011, 03:00 PM
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That scale size demonstration is **brilliant**! Love things like that. blink.gif


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post Aug 11 2011, 03:38 PM
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Mini TES hasn't been used for a long time. The last I heard it was severely crippled by a dusty mirror, but theoretically functional.

Any chance it could be used to follow up on the CRISM phyllosilicate signatures? I imagine picking the signal out of the noise of the dust would be a real challenge.

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post Aug 11 2011, 04:40 PM
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It's still covered, according to Emily's latest post.
It's doubtful they can clean it after so long.
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post Aug 11 2011, 04:55 PM
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So, what instruments can they still use to determine the mineralogy of things now that we are here? Other than a close up picture. Are phyllosilicate's iron bearing so the Mossbauer can be used?
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post Aug 11 2011, 04:56 PM
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If Emily says "Mini TES ... is hopelessly contaminated" I'll take the situation as truly hopeless. sad.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (rschare @ Aug 11 2011, 05:55 PM) *
So, what instruments can they still use to determine the mineralogy of things now that we are here? Other than a close up picture. Are phyllosilicate's iron bearing so the Mossbauer can be used?

Have a look at the end of Emily's blog here: http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00003137/


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post Aug 11 2011, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (mhoward @ Aug 11 2011, 03:28 AM) *
Full right Navcam panorama for 2681-2682



Thanks for this wonderful pano, mhoward.

Looking around and comparing it with Tesh's map, I am especially struck by the appearance of Sutherland Point beyond the dark bay to the Right of the rover mast. You can see some subtle undulating topography in it which is so slight, compared with the prominent ridge appearance in the HiRISE map. Another example of how we were fooled by the orbital photos into thinking these crater rim features were much, much taller than they really are. How they can appear so prominent from above, yet be so negligible from gound level, is still pretty mystifying...
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post Aug 12 2011, 03:46 AM
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WOW is the best word to Describe what I'm seeing and good job everyone.

I have a few Questions?

1. I would like to know where the official Rim of Endevour Starts and when did we cross that point? Are there any overhead
shots showing the rim as a circular pattern? There probably is an image somewhere in UMSF and I missed it.

2. With the current degrading of certain science tools on Oppy. Does it take roughly 2 weeks to examine any rock now?

Thanks
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post Aug 12 2011, 04:53 AM
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QUOTE (Bobby @ Aug 11 2011, 09:46 PM) *
1. (snip) Are there any overhead shots showing the rim as a circular pattern?

NASA posts a good context image here:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/pr.../20110608a.html

QUOTE (Bobby @ Aug 11 2011, 09:46 PM) *
2. With the current degrading of certain science tools on Oppy. Does it take roughly 2 weeks to examine any rock now?

The curium-244 used in the APXS has a half-life of 18.1 years, so integration times for it should not yet have doubled, everything else being equal. The Mossbauer, on the other hand, uses cobalt-57, which has a half life of 271.8 days. Since the date of launch eight years ago, that's 10.75 half-lives, reducing the source intensity by more than 1,722 times if my arithmetic is right, which I hope it's not. A measurement that took six hours might now take more than a terrestrial year, so they may be running it just long enough to get the bare minimum of a result above the background.
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post Aug 12 2011, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE (john_s @ Aug 12 2011, 02:03 AM) *
Is it possible this fissure formed when Opportunity ran over the adjacent piece of rock and displaced it? We've seen similar things before.

Also, as Gibraltar was (I think) a pre-Cape York target, shouldn't it be in the "Post Conjunction..." thread? I understand why that thread was closed to encourage people to move to the new thread, but now that goal has been accomplished, shouldn't it be re-opened for posting of continued discussion of data from the long trek?

John

Completely right, John. Moved some posts and re-opened the thread.
Cape York related posts, here.
Gibraltar or earlier things, on the Post Conjunction thread, please.
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post Aug 12 2011, 06:11 AM
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Today's drive moved the rover about 15m towards the SE to a point somewhere on the S or SW corner of Odyssey. I will update the map once the pictures are available.
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post Aug 12 2011, 08:32 AM
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A little more of the crater's floor in view tonight, from the navcam.

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