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Mgs News Briefing On September 20, 2005, interesting changes observed...
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post Sep 17 2005, 07:06 PM
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New discoveries to be announced and discussed:

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2005/sep/H...GS_telecon.html

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post Sep 17 2005, 08:00 PM
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Any speculation on what it would be about?
I know one of the participants Jack Mustard has published on glacial features on Mars so perhaps it's about recent indications of glacial activity.


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post Sep 18 2005, 04:19 AM
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Someone pointed this out also in another forum; the NASA TV listing for September 20:

"September 20, Tuesday
TBD - Mars Canals Live News Interviews - HQ (One-Way Media Interviews)"

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html

Theories, anyone?

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post Sep 18 2005, 03:08 PM
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Changes in some of the gullies?
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QUOTE (paulanderson @ Sep 17 2005, 11:19 PM)
Someone pointed this out also in another forum; the NASA TV listing for September 20:

"September 20, Tuesday
TBD - Mars Canals Live News Interviews - HQ (One-Way Media Interviews)"

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html

Theories, anyone?

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Mars Canals? Percival Lowell will be so happy.

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Maybe MER found some fossils.

Did anyone ever do a more in-depth analysis of that rotini object Spirit found?


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post Sep 20 2005, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (alan @ Sep 18 2005, 03:08 PM)
Changes in some of the gullies?

That would be a major observation. It would mean gullies are currently forming.

Since the title is "Mars canals", perhaps this means channels.
Then here's another possibility:

Newsgroups: sci.astro, alt.sci.planetary, sci.astro.amateur, sci.geo.geology
From: rgregorycl...@yahoo.com (Robert Clark)
Date: 31 May 2003 20:04:29 -0700
Local: Sat, May 31 2003 11:04 pm
Subject: Currently forming channels in Tharsis, Mars?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro.a...3bf162327793d0c



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post Sep 20 2005, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Sep 19 2005, 03:57 PM)
Mars Canals?  Percival Lowell will be so happy.

cool.gif

Maybe MER found some fossils.

Did anyone ever do a more in-depth analysis of that rotini object Spirit found?
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QUOTE (paulanderson @ Sep 18 2005, 05:19 AM)
Someone pointed this out also in another forum; the NASA TV listing for September 20:

"September 20, Tuesday
TBD - Mars Canals Live News Interviews - HQ (One-Way Media Interviews)"

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking.html

Theories, anyone?

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Paul:

I wonder if it was just an unfortunate typo?

http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/2005/09/...rs_ne.html#more

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QUOTE (Bob Shaw @ Sep 20 2005, 05:58 AM)


While I too have a temple devoted to the FSM (to all fundies out there - it's a joke, get a life), I am sincerely curious about any follows that have been done on the rotini-shaped object imaged by Spirit. Even if it is just some strange rock formation, it should be investigated.

I get the feeling the MER team doesn't want to be thought of as following in Richard Hoaxland's seriously misguided footsteps, but I guarantee if and when a genuine fossil (or more) is found on Mars, they will be stomping all over each other to claim credit.

Not that the fossil or Mars or the Cosmos at large will care who found what, mind you.


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no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft."

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QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Sep 20 2005, 09:26 AM)
I get the feeling the MER team doesn't want to be thought of as following in Richard Hoaxland's seriously misguided footsteps
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This is a good example of collateral damage done by the conspiracists et. al.

They could make credible scientists not want to touch the fossil/life thing with a 3.048m pole, in fear of being classified as a nutter. They could make us all such extreme skeptics, so that when something real is found, we'll never believe it.

It's like a variant of the old "boy who cried wolf" tale. In this case, you've got boy "A" crying wolf when there isn't one, and when boy "B" actually sees a wolf, nobody believes him on account of boy "A".

What would it take, in light of all the junk out there, for us skeptics & critical thinkers to accept something as real evidence?


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Yeah!! Great pictures!

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/media/mgs-sept05/


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Wow! New craters and New gullies??



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Nice to see images that show that Mars is alive.

I'd imagine the next 6 months of MOC imagery will be on the MSSS website fairly soon - they tend to tie these things in

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QUOTE (SigurRosFan @ Sep 20 2005, 04:59 PM)


I wish those images were at similar illumination angles. You can see a trace of the gullies in the first image, but it is hard to tell if they have grown or if it is a trick of lighting.


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Recently formed impact crater


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