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Posted by: Marcel Jul 12 2005, 02:41 PM

I'd like to know which of the three following is best:

Eyes on Mars
Wheels on Mars
Mars, dead or alive.

And how i can get (one, two or all three of) them for a reasonable price. From USA they want to bill me another 20 USD for shipping to Holland, which is even more than the retailprice of the DVD itself. Can i buy them in Europe somewhere ?

Any more DVD's about Mars recommended ?

Marcel.

Posted by: djellison Jul 12 2005, 02:53 PM

Mars Dead or Alive is fantastic - if you can, get the follow on -called "Year One" or something.

Doug

Posted by: Bob Shaw Jul 12 2005, 02:56 PM

Marcel:

I don't know those DVDs myself, but would suggest eBay is worth a look. Oh, and if you're interested in the Apollo flights and/or Saturn launch vehicles, HMV have just started selling the Spacecraft Films range - and even advertising them! I bought both Mighty Saturns sets and Apollo 11 for £100 recently. Great stuff, with material you won'y have seen before (like: Saturn 1 development flight footage from within the S-IV oxygen tank showing the oxidiser draining away (I never realised before that LOX looks just like water when it's not boiling and steaming away!)).

Bob Shaw

Posted by: Marcel Jul 13 2005, 07:59 AM

I already bought Apollo 11. But i'll start to save money and buy ALL of them......the 20 USD shipping rate is going to be devided over all copies then......
Thanks for the suggestions.
Marcel.

Posted by: MiniTES Jul 14 2005, 03:31 PM

Mighty Saturns is excellent. Of those you mention Dead or Alive is probably the best (strangely titled) but I thought Part II was really bad. They bascially spend 50 minutes of the hour talking about the flash memory problem and then the rest of the 10 minutes talking about how they were afraid to grind blueberries with the RAT. Then at the end they say one sentence like "Spirit's flash memory problem was fixed and it visited a crater and the Columbia Hills. Opportunity left its crater and looked at a crater called Endurance." And that was it. Ridiculous.

Posted by: Tom Tamlyn Sep 4 2005, 05:06 PM

The original installment of "Mars, Dead or Alive," is available for watching online on the Nova website.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/mars/program.html

Unfortunately the files aren't available for downloading.

Tom Tamlyn

Posted by: djellison Sep 4 2005, 06:00 PM

And is not visible if you're outside the USA as far as I can tell.

Posted by: ilbasso Sep 4 2005, 09:25 PM

Don't feel so bad...I live in the US and the website won't let me access the program, either - it tells me that I'm trying to access it from outside the US.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Oct 27 2005, 06:05 PM

There's one DVD Mars-enthusiasts should look forward to with greatest expectations...
Well I'm looking forward to it !
http://www.themarsunderground.com/

Best regards,
Philip

Posted by: PhilCo126 Oct 28 2005, 06:40 AM

Well folks, it looks like Spacecraft Films is considering bringing a DVD series on unmanned spaceflight ...
Well there exist certainly some great video-images at the JPL archive, so if well-researched following DVD-sets on Mars would be desirable

Mariner 4 + 6 + 7 + 9 reconnaissance of Mars.

Viking 1 & 2 Orbiters & Landers exploration of Mars.

Global Surveyor, Mars Odyssey and Mars Express photograph Mars from orbit.

Pathfinder-Sojourner and both Mars Exploration Rovers conduct intensive studies of Mars.


You can always send Your suggestion to their website at:
( Click ' Future Products ' )

http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/

... can't wait ...
http://mars-literature.skynetblogs.be/

Best regards,
Philip

Posted by: PhilCo126 Nov 9 2005, 05:00 PM

Added some DVDs on righthand side of my Mars-Literature weblog:
http://mars-literature.skynetblogs.be/

Philip

Posted by: PhilCo126 Dec 15 2005, 08:14 PM

Look at the very last movie on this weblink

Does anybody know if this is available on CD-ROM ? It's an excellent summary of the best Press Briefings of the 1997 Mars Pathfinder team !

http://cecelia.physics.indiana.edu/life/video/pbs.html

Posted by: mars loon Dec 18 2005, 03:32 AM

The PBS NOVA program "Mars: Dead or Alive"

is outstanding and was first broadcast as Spirit was landing in Jan 2004.

A year later in Jan 2005, PBS NOVA followed up with the equally excellent "Welcome to Mars"

which covers most of the first year of flight operations and also includes additional Dan Maas footage of Oppy approaching Endurance.


They are "must haves" which I highly recommend. Both have extensive interviews and behind the scenes shots with Steve Squyres and many other members of the MER teams.

here is the link to PBS website for lots more info on both DVD's

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/mars/

"Eyes on Mars" is from Space.com and is all pre-landing

its good and has an excellent interview with Dan Maas explaining the details of his fabulous animation. That alone makes it worthwhile

Posted by: SFJCody Dec 19 2005, 08:17 PM

I have an unopened (pristine) copy of 'Mars - Dead or Alive' for sale. Will sell for £6 (includes postage) within UK, £7.20 to rest of EU. If this counts as spam please delete, but it seems relevant to this thread.

Posted by: deglr6328 Dec 19 2005, 09:52 PM

Ohhh neato! It should have looked darker blue than water though right? I have always wanted to see what a large quantity of liquid O2 looked like. One time when I was at KSC on a tour as a kid I saw a big tank that said "DANGER LIQUID OZONE"; I would sooooo love to see what that looks like! Its supposedly deep purplish/blue and highly (para?)magnetic. lovely. (and I bet you all thought your obsessions were unusual! )

Posted by: PhilCo126 Dec 28 2005, 10:01 PM

Did anyone record (preferably on DVD) these BBC Horizon documentaries?

1. Saturn - lord of the rings
2. Titan - a place like home ?

Excellent documentaries but unavailable via BBC although many people already requested that BBC should make theme-related DVD sets of their Horizon documentaries!

Posted by: lyford Jan 3 2006, 06:08 AM

OK, due to http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?showtopic=1789&st=15&p=34189&#entry34189 I bought both Mars, Dead or Alive and Welcome to Mars on DVD, should have them by the end of the week....

BTW, has anyone seen the BBC production of Voyage to the Planets and Beyond - I think it was called Space Odyssey in the UK... It was fairly cheap at http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=14300614&type=product&id=1424209 ($14.99 US) for the DVD and I would be interested in opinions if it's too corny.

PS-I hope linking to an actual commercial site doesn't break the rules... let me know and I will remove the link if need be.

Posted by: djellison Jan 3 2006, 08:10 AM

Space Odyssey was all right, nothing great to be honest. You wont learn anything, but it's got some nice eye candy. at $15 I'd probably get it. There is a sibling program that highlight the missions from which much of the scientific basis for the program came from though.

Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 3 2006, 02:35 PM

Indeed Doug, the documentaries on Space Odyssey won't learn anything special to passionate unmanned space enthusiasts but are great to watch...
I've bought the DVD for the 60 minutes documentary on it which gives an overview of Unmanned spaceflight missions to the planets...

I have added DVDs on my Mars-literature weblog (lower right portion)
http://mars-literature.skynetblogs.be/

(I can recommend the Beagle 2 DVD)

Best regards,
Philip

Posted by: djellison Jan 3 2006, 02:51 PM

They DVD'd the Beagle programs from the OU

DOUG WANT! Not found that anywhere - any pointers?

I cant actually see any 'stuff' on your blog, just lots of images down each side - there's a Beagle 2 Guide it seems ( after CP's book Beagle which I have ) - what on earth's that?

Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 3 2006, 09:43 PM

The book entitled ' The Guide to Beagle 2 ' is an excellent softcover book, in fact a technical description of the lander and its instruments, 222 glossy pages, which can still be ordered from Open University !
It was published in December 2003 and has superb color photos on the assembly of the lander and engineers designing and testing all aspect of Beagle 2 !

The weblog is just intended to show the covers of the books & magazines but send me an e-mail or forum-message and I'll be glad to give more infos

Posted by: djellison Jan 3 2006, 11:32 PM

I think I've managed to find a copy of the guide on Ebay

But I dont know they did the DVD's at all Where on earth can one get them?

Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 Jan 5 2006, 09:59 AM

BBC 2 Horizon will be about space tourists next Thursday 12th January 2006... set Your VCRs ... euh Hard Disk DVD recorders I meant

Posted by: PhilCo126 Mar 20 2006, 07:57 PM

Asking once more
Did anyone record (preferably on DVD) these BBC "Horizon" documentaries?

1. Saturn - lord of the rings
2. Titan - a place like home

I'm willing to pay all costs to get a copie on DVD if these are sitting on someone's hard disk

Posted by: Borek Mar 20 2006, 08:03 PM

I have both in MPEG 4 format (ie. DivX or XviD). I have downloaded them from mvgroup.org forum. So far I only have seen the Saturn and I was a bit disappointed. If you follow Cassini's (and Huygen's) adventures, there is little new to be found. Also the feature ends with SOI, so nothing about Titan, Enceladus etc. What's nice is to see all these scientist we know only by names in person. Also the documentary manages to get across some of the awe of Saturnian system.

Borek

Posted by: PhilCo126 Mar 31 2006, 05:59 AM

Meanwhile, NOVA made a new documentary on the 'mysterious' Moon Titan

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/titan/


Philip

Posted by: PhilCo126 May 15 2006, 03:55 PM

Meanwhile spacecraftfilms.com has announced the first DVD-sets on unmanned spaceflight
I have contacted Mark of spacecraftfilms and suggested to divide the unmanned DVD-sets according to target/destination of the spacecraft...
So a set on the inner planets Mercury & Venus (Mariner & Magellan), a set on the Gas giants (Pioneer & Voyager) and probably several sets on Mars-exploration, ...

http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/future.html

Posted by: djellison May 15 2006, 07:11 PM

I was looking at the price of getting all the early MER live coverage and dumping it to DVD as a small commercial exercise - I wonder how well it would sell.

Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 May 16 2006, 09:06 AM

I guess You would have about 30 buyers on this forum ... so the first 50 would sell easily

Posted by: djellison May 16 2006, 09:26 AM

It'd have to be expensive ( it costs quite a lot to get footage from JPL ) - something like £20 a copy. It's a 'autumn' project I think

Doug

Posted by: PhilCo126 May 19 2006, 06:30 AM

Anyway Doug, by 2008 spacecraffilms.com will probably have its first DVD-set on Mars-exploration available... if I check my videos, there should be a possiblility to make at least a 4-DVD set for both Mariner ( 4 + 6 + 7 + 9 ) and Viking ( 1+ 2 ) missions.

Posted by: PhilCo126 Oct 30 2006, 04:03 PM

Finally the MARS UNDERGROUND DVD is available, order details here:
http://www.themarsunderground.com/

Philip