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post Jan 13 2015, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Jan 13 2015, 02:00 PM) *
Is it wrong of me to feel the same way about pronunciation that I do about 'true color' ???

Phil


I'm personally fine with the typical English pronunciation of Ceres.

In the one particular case of ou-rah-NOOS (Greek pronunciation and stress), I think a distinct improvement over "yer ..." smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2015, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Mongo @ Jan 13 2015, 07:16 PM) *
As far as I can tell, the Classical Latin pronunciation of 'Ceres' would be like English KAY-race.
And as an aside, the Classical Latin pronunciation of 'Uranus' would be like English oo-RAW-noose

Thanks Mongo : it's OK for "key-race", as Xerxes says.
But, regarding Uranus in Latin language, it's close to "oo-ra-noos" (no "w", no "e"). The "w" comes when English people pronounce Latin, which sounds funny to French, Spanish and Italian people smile.gif The "u" sound in Latin is very close to the pronounciation of the "ou" in English you have in "y-ou". So it should really sound like "ou-ra-nous" in Latin language. And maybe that the tonic accent/stress was on the middle syllable, sounding then like "ou-ra-nous"...
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post Jan 15 2015, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (vikingmars @ Jan 15 2015, 01:36 PM) *
But, regarding Uranus in Latin language, it's close to "oo-ra-noos" (no "w", no "e"). The "w" comes when English people pronounce Latin, which sounds funny to French, Spanish and Italian people smile.gif The "u" sound in Latin is very close to the pronounciation of the "ou" in English you have in "y-ou". So it should really sound like "ou-ra-nous" in Latin language. And maybe that the tonic accent/stress was on the middle syllable, sounding then like "ou-ra-nous"...


I had originally had the pronunciation spelled as oo-RA-noos, but decided to use actual English words to ensure that there was no doubt (among native English-speakers, anyway) of the pronunciation. 'RA' by itself could have been pronounced like the sound in RAT instead of like RAW, so I simply used the word RAW, where the 'W' is silent. The 'ou' letter combination in English is ambiguous, the sound in 'you' is quite different from the sound in 'out'. So is the 'oo' letter combination ('pool' versus 'book') but in isolation it is understood to be the same as the sound in 'you'. Finally, 'noos' by itself could be pronounced with a terminal 'z' sound (like 'news' without the consonantal 'y' sound), while 'noose' is pronounced with a terminal 's' sound.

And this is getting fairly far off the thread topic.
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I will be attending the JPL open house tomorrow Saturday June 9, 2018. If any other Unmannedspaceflight contributors are attending, I would be happy to attempt to meet up so as to put a face to a name. fdewhirst 'at' forsyth 'dot' org


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