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Nh - The Launch Thread, Godspeed little one
djellison
post Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was time, with the Atlas V about to roll out - for a new thread for NH for the launch etc.

Someone asked over at the HZ just how NH can go so fast, this was my reply....

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How do you get a spacecraft to Jupiter in under a year? Easy. Make it very very light, and put it on a very very big rocket. The config of Atlas V rocket being used to launch NH (551 - 5m fairing, 5 solids, and one engine on the Centaur stage ) would typically put 8,670kg into GTO or 20,520 into LEO.
New Horizons is 478kg, and it's Star 48B 3rd stage is 2,137kg - so instead of hauling 20 tons, this vehicle is hauling about 2.5 tons thus you get a HUGE velocity out of it. AND, once it's done that, you have the final kick of the 48B, 591 thousand kgs-s (thus accelerating is all a further 3.5 - 4km/s ball park speed, if my maths is right)
At launch - the vehicle is 573,160kg. NH is 0.083% of it.
Imagine the Apollo entry capsule on top of a Saturn V...tiny tiny tiny... that was 5,800 kg on a 3,038,500kg rocket - 0.191% - more than double that percentage of NH. The cutaway's are almost comical, with this tiny gold-clad box on an enormous vehicle.
Basically - it's a LOT of rocket, and not a lot of payload.
For comparison, look how much fuss was made of Stardust that entered so quickly. It took >16 hrs to get from the distance of the moon to Utah. NH makes that journey in 9 hours smile.gif
One thing the NH mission is not short of, is superlatives.


I'm not one for good luck charms (although I'll eat peanuts during a Martian EDL with the best of them), but this mission has been so long in coming, that it deserves every ounce of luck it can have - the best, most accurate launch possible, the cleanest checkout, and incident free cruise to Jupiter.

Goodluck and Godspeed little one, we're with you every step of the way.

Doug
PS - Alan, you're a credit to your field, spending so much time answering questions and writing the PI Perspectives, it's been a hell of a journey!
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- djellison   Nh - The Launch Thread   Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
- - mchan   In a thread on sci.space.policy, Jim Oberg comment...   Jan 22 2006, 08:14 AM
- - djellison   It's not uncommon for LV's to turn, quite ...   Jan 22 2006, 09:43 AM
|- - Ames   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 22 2006, 10:43 AM)It...   Jan 23 2006, 12:47 PM
|- - just-nick   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 23 2006, 05:47 AM)I think t...   Jan 23 2006, 03:31 PM
||- - tty   QUOTE (just-nick @ Jan 23 2006, 05:31 PM...   Jan 23 2006, 08:04 PM
||- - just-nick   QUOTE (tty @ Jan 23 2006, 01:04 PM)Very true....   Jan 24 2006, 04:48 AM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 23 2006, 05:47 AM)I think t...   Jan 24 2006, 08:13 PM
- - edstrick   My brother and I both noticed that rapid turn in t...   Jan 22 2006, 10:45 AM
- - dvandorn   Yes, you have the description of Apollo 6 pretty e...   Jan 22 2006, 01:53 PM
|- - Alan Stern   Things are going well here at the APL MOC. New Hor...   Jan 22 2006, 04:08 PM
||- - punkboi   QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jan 22 2006, 09:08 AM)Bec...   Jan 22 2006, 11:11 PM
||- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (punkboi @ Jan 22 2006, 06:11 PM)Haha.....   Jan 23 2006, 12:45 AM
||- - Alan Stern   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 23 2006, 12:45 AM)He...   Jan 23 2006, 12:56 AM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (Alan Stern @ Jan 23 2006, 01:56 AM)The...   Jan 23 2006, 01:34 AM
|- - Holder of the Two Leashes   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 22 2006, 07:53 AM)Yes, ...   Jan 23 2006, 02:49 AM
|- - gndonald   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Jan 23 200...   Jan 23 2006, 01:53 PM
- - Bill Harris   On an initial mission like this, it does not pay t...   Jan 23 2006, 01:52 AM
- - edstrick   DVandorn: "....And yet, NASA declared the mis...   Jan 23 2006, 06:00 AM
- - djellison   Yes - the "OMFG it's coming back down...   Jan 23 2006, 12:53 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 23 2006, 01:53 PM)Some...   Jan 23 2006, 01:34 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE It's not uncommon for LV's to turn, ...   Jan 23 2006, 02:05 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Bill Harris @ Jan 23 2006, 03:05 PM)Ar...   Jan 23 2006, 02:55 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 23 2006, 09:55 AM)That r...   Jan 23 2006, 05:05 PM
|- - yg1968   For those who missed the launch, it can be viewed ...   Jan 23 2006, 05:37 PM
|- - ljk4-1   A Wish for New Horizons by Paul Glister Yesterday...   Jan 23 2006, 07:55 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Yep. Mercury-Atlas 1 blew up at Max Q -- in front...   Jan 24 2006, 02:25 AM
- - BPCooper   Just to share, I made Astronomy Picture of the Day...   Jan 24 2006, 02:36 PM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 24 2006, 09:36 AM)Just ...   Jan 24 2006, 02:52 PM
||- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Jan 24 2006, 03:52 PM)Co...   Jan 24 2006, 03:31 PM
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||- - ugordan   To answer my own question earlier, those of you wh...   Jan 24 2006, 05:18 PM
||- - ustrax   HOW ON EARTH DID I MISS THIS?!?   Jan 24 2006, 05:40 PM
||- - Sunspot   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 24 2006, 05:18 PM)To ans...   Jan 25 2006, 11:44 PM
||- - BPCooper   QUOTE (Sunspot @ Jan 25 2006, 07:44 PM)What h...   Jan 26 2006, 03:01 AM
|- - dilo   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 24 2006, 02:36 PM)Just ...   Jan 25 2006, 06:43 AM
||- - Tesheiner   QUOTE (dilo @ Jan 25 2006, 07:43 AM)I always ...   Jan 25 2006, 08:56 AM
||- - BPCooper   QUOTE (Tesheiner @ Jan 25 2006, 04:56 AM)IIRC...   Jan 25 2006, 01:01 PM
||- - dilo   Thanks Tesheiner/BPCooper, I suspected this answer...   Jan 25 2006, 10:12 PM
||- - BPCooper   The IMAX film Space Station 3D (2D on DVD format t...   Jan 25 2006, 11:26 PM
|- - mars loon   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 24 2006, 02:36 PM)Just ...   Feb 6 2006, 01:03 AM
- - djellison   The Atlas V 551 uses 5 solid rocket motors + the R...   Jan 24 2006, 08:51 PM
|- - The Messenger   QUOTE (djellison @ Jan 24 2006, 01:51 PM)The ...   Jan 25 2006, 05:41 AM
- - BPCooper   Thanks, yep the remote sound activated camera. I e...   Jan 24 2006, 09:16 PM
- - yaohua2000   Hi all, I have just updated my New Horizons page. ...   Jan 25 2006, 10:58 PM
- - Bill Harris   QUOTE (BPCooper @ Jan 24 2006, 03:16 PM)Thank...   Jan 26 2006, 03:14 AM
- - PhilCo126   Did You all notice that the New Horizons spacecraf...   Jan 26 2006, 08:24 AM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 26 2006, 12:24 AM)Did ...   Jan 26 2006, 09:36 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 26 2006, 03:24 AM)Did ...   Jan 26 2006, 04:34 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Ah, so Stern stole ANOTHER one of my ideas, did he...   Jan 26 2006, 09:53 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Or, as the BabelFish translation of one French aer...   Feb 6 2006, 01:28 AM
|- - BPCooper   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 5 2006, 09:28 PM)Or,...   Feb 6 2006, 02:51 AM
|- - just-nick   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Feb 5 2006, 06:28 PM)Or,...   Feb 6 2006, 04:55 AM
- - edstrick   Didn't Captain James <where no man has gone...   Feb 6 2006, 05:34 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (edstrick @ Feb 6 2006, 12:34 AM)Didn...   Feb 6 2006, 03:17 PM
|- - paxdan   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Feb 6 2006, 03:17 PM)Eng...   Feb 7 2006, 09:44 AM
- - edstrick   Space is deep. ____________Space is dark. ________...   Feb 7 2006, 10:29 AM
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