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Marcel
post May 3 2005, 11:11 AM
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Does anybody know when and how many MSL will go, or when the decision on this will be made ?
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post Dec 4 2005, 02:15 AM
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Well, the antenna doesn't have any mast to speak of -- it just sits on a 2-axis gimbal sitting right on the rover's deck. Second, as Mike Caplinger says, it's much too big to be supported by the camera mast. Anyway, the separate camera motors are miniscule in weight compared to the whole DTE system -- you wouldn't be saving any weight to speak of (and probably none, since you'd have to provide a stronger, heavier camera mast to support the antenna as well).
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post Dec 4 2005, 03:49 AM
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BruceMoomaw

Well I figure the thing was as light as small satellite dish. Forgive me for thinking jpl could at least equal the capabilities of satellite television provider. tongue.gif

When i said mast, I meant the slender vertical structure that holding up the dish in the picture you provided, forgive me if there is some other word for it.

mcaplinger,

Seriously, I feel I may I might have offended you with that suggestion, take no offense I’m not challenging you, quite the opposite: I want to understand. If I ask why not do something differently I’m simply wondering why you did it like that, I’m not trying to make suggestion into a field that is very foreign from my own, rather I’m looking to be answered and enlightened, not respected. If something seems wrong to me I’ll ask the experts why it like that, why it’s not done the way I think it should be, they will hopefully explain to me, I will argue with them until I understand why it like that and then it won’t seem wrong to me anymore. Most people ask why and are given a simple answer, usually they don’t feel the answer was adequate but don’t ask for further explanation out of fear of being embarrassed for some perceive stupidity of not understanding already. I lacking a sense of honor or dignity and I’m willing to make a fool of my self until I understand.

So please don’t get angry with further questions like why not design the “MastCam” to handle the weight, why would two separate structures weigh less then one?
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- Marcel   2009 Or 2011 ?   May 3 2005, 11:11 AM
- - djellison   Theisinger's said that a judgement call on Sky...   May 3 2005, 11:16 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ May 3 2005, 11:16 AM)Theis...   May 3 2005, 11:30 AM
- - djellison   There's some testing happening this year on th...   May 3 2005, 11:55 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   They're definitely going to run the ground tes...   May 3 2005, 07:17 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ May 3 2005, 07:17 PM)The...   May 4 2005, 06:48 AM
- - edstrick   Regarding the number of MSL missions that should f...   May 4 2005, 09:58 AM
- - djellison   #3 is the only one that could derive engineering c...   May 4 2005, 11:33 AM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (djellison @ May 4 2005, 11:33 AM)The o...   May 4 2005, 01:08 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (Marcel @ May 4 2005, 01:08 PM)QUOTE (d...   May 4 2005, 01:36 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Why don't they use semi flexible booms, (say ...   May 4 2005, 07:57 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (edstrick @ May 4 2005, 09:58 AM)Regard...   May 4 2005, 08:06 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Footnote: I was told by an Inside Source yesterday...   May 4 2005, 08:09 PM
- - MaDeR   My 2 cents: If I have to choose between 2009 with ...   May 12 2005, 09:35 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (MaDeR @ May 12 2005, 09:35 PM)My 2 cen...   May 20 2005, 11:42 AM
|- - GravityWaves   QUOTE (Marcel @ May 20 2005, 08:42 AM) ht...   Mar 25 2006, 05:58 PM
- - Redstone   QUOTE ( Andy Danzler: Director of NASA's Solar...   Jun 21 2005, 10:07 PM
|- - dvandorn   Maybe flying one MSL at a time is a good idea. Lo...   Jun 21 2005, 10:43 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   A second MSL which just happens to be available mi...   Jun 21 2005, 11:14 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jun 21 2005, 05:43 PM)Maybe...   Jun 22 2005, 04:04 PM
- - edstrick   They *SHOULD* build a flight vehicle and a "r...   Jun 21 2005, 11:40 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   I think both that (A) flying more than one MSL is ...   Jun 22 2005, 01:32 AM
- - edstrick   Missions failures are most often at launch or arri...   Jun 22 2005, 04:08 AM
- - Cugel   As I understand it there are 2 options: a skycrane...   Jul 1 2005, 02:59 PM
|- - Marcel   QUOTE (Cugel @ Jul 1 2005, 02:59 PM)I know I...   Jul 6 2005, 12:01 PM
|- - Marcel   Cugel, there's also another thread about EDL f...   Jul 6 2005, 12:36 PM
|- - Cugel   QUOTE (Marcel @ Jul 6 2005, 12:36 PM)Cugel, t...   Jul 6 2005, 08:25 PM
|- - exobioquest   I hope wikipedia is up to date on this: http://en....   Nov 28 2005, 04:45 AM
- - edstrick   The Soviet Venera 11 and 12 landers performed nomi...   Nov 28 2005, 05:56 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Unfortunately, I still don't feel I can give t...   Nov 28 2005, 07:08 AM
- - edstrick   When you're playing it smart, a lot can be don...   Nov 28 2005, 09:57 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Believe it or not, there's still a fight over ...   Nov 29 2005, 01:21 AM
- - edstrick   The dual frequency occultation experiment actually...   Nov 29 2005, 08:13 AM
|- - exobioquest   You people get easily distracted don't you? ...   Nov 29 2005, 06:54 PM
|- - Marslauncher   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Nov 29 2005, 06:54 PM)Yo...   Nov 30 2005, 12:48 AM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Nov 29 2005, 08:54 PM)Yo...   Nov 30 2005, 08:12 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Heh heh heh. Let me take some mercy on you: there...   Nov 30 2005, 02:27 AM
- - RNeuhaus   In other topic, Bruce has told that the best optio...   Nov 30 2005, 02:31 AM
|- - exobioquest   To little money going around, that looks like the ...   Nov 30 2005, 02:44 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   Note that the findings announced today from Mars E...   Dec 1 2005, 10:03 AM
|- - exobioquest   Is there a global map by ESA of hydrated clay dete...   Dec 1 2005, 04:50 PM
- - RNeuhaus   The Terra Meridiani has a mixed materials: Phyllos...   Dec 1 2005, 05:07 PM
|- - exobioquest   Yes, but I was looking for maps that chart the dep...   Dec 1 2005, 05:31 PM
- - dvandorn   I'll say the same thing I said in another thre...   Dec 1 2005, 09:01 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, if he was a Brit, he was being nostalgic...   Dec 1 2005, 10:24 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 1 2005, 11:24 PM)Wel...   Dec 1 2005, 10:52 PM
- - djellison   Well - all the roads and speed limits in the UK ar...   Dec 1 2005, 10:51 PM
- - RNeuhaus   I remember that in the decade 80', U.S. has in...   Dec 2 2005, 03:44 PM
- - odave   Canada was much more successful. It seems like ev...   Dec 2 2005, 03:57 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Dec 2 2005, 03:44 PM)Perhap...   Dec 3 2005, 11:11 AM
- - dvandorn   Careful, there -- oriental languages, which depend...   Dec 3 2005, 05:20 PM
|- - exobioquest   Way don't we all just learn Esperanto or some ...   Dec 3 2005, 07:13 PM
|- - edstrick   [quote=exobioquest,Dec 3 2005, 07:13 PM] Way don...   Dec 4 2005, 07:54 AM
|- - exobioquest   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 4 2005, 01:54 AM)I...   Dec 4 2005, 08:41 PM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Dec 4 2005, 03:41 PM)tre...   Dec 5 2005, 10:15 PM
- - mike   The real issue with language is that it's fore...   Dec 3 2005, 10:00 PM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (mike @ Dec 4 2005, 12:00 AM)I'd mu...   Dec 3 2005, 10:22 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   "60 Minutes" did a marvelous piece a few...   Dec 3 2005, 11:41 PM
|- - exobioquest   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 3 2005, 05:41 PM)As ...   Dec 4 2005, 12:41 AM
||- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Dec 3 2005, 04:41 PM)if ...   Dec 4 2005, 02:08 AM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 4 2005, 01:41 AM)I h...   Dec 4 2005, 08:24 AM
|- - RNeuhaus   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Dec 3 2005, 06:41 PM)...   Dec 5 2005, 10:05 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Well, the antenna doesn't have any mast to spe...   Dec 4 2005, 02:15 AM
|- - exobioquest   BruceMoomaw Well I figure the thing was as light ...   Dec 4 2005, 03:49 AM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (exobioquest @ Dec 3 2005, 07:49 PM)If ...   Dec 4 2005, 04:33 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   QUOTE (edstrick @ Dec 4 2005, 07:54 AM)I...   Dec 4 2005, 08:45 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   During the November COMPLEX meeting, the NASA spok...   Mar 25 2006, 10:00 PM
|- - gpurcell   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Mar 25 2006, 10:00 P...   Mar 26 2006, 02:42 PM
|- - mcaplinger   QUOTE (gpurcell @ Mar 26 2006, 06:42 AM) ...   Mar 26 2006, 11:19 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (mcaplinger @ Mar 26 2006, 11:19 PM...   Mar 26 2006, 11:31 PM
- - Mariner9   Well, while I would certainly be happy to see more...   Mar 26 2006, 06:13 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   There never seems to have been any serious discuss...   Mar 26 2006, 11:02 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   It's not so much that they don't have mone...   Mar 27 2006, 02:51 AM


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