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Nov 29 2017, 01:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Here are a couple of videos... I eyeballed the sun angle so I wonder how wrong the shadow direction is!
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Dec 1 2017, 09:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
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Dec 6 2017, 06:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
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Jan 11 2018, 11:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 1-October 06 Member No.: 1206 |
I'll add this to this thread because if its confirmed it might make the case for polar exploration even more interesting.
Skylights in the polar regions have been lacking up til now I think. https://seti.org/seti-institute/press-relea...north-pole-moon P |
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May 22 2018, 06:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Some new flyby clips on Flickr... full length versions at the Youtube link...
Full 3 minute 4k60 Youtube version Full 3 minute 4k60 Youtube version Full 3 minute 4k60 Youtube version Full 1 minute 4k60 Youtube version -------------------- |
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Feb 25 2019, 06:25 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 24-February 17 From: California Member No.: 8127 |
Sean, I love the image of the Apennines and the Apollo 15 landing site!
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Feb 25 2019, 10:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1669 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Thanks for posting some new animations to enjoy. Might be something outside your workflow, though it might look neat to try and add in some opposition effect if you're looking in the direction opposite the sun. It's hard for me to find an example of this (from orbit) for the moon, so I'll substitute one from the Hyabusa 2 spacecraft instead:
http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/topics/201...TD1R1A_W1movie/ -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Feb 26 2019, 12:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Thanks, I've noticed this quite a bit when working with ISS sequences.
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Feb 26 2019, 12:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1669 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
Indeed it's important on the Earth as well, where at least the core of this effect might be modeled with a simple phase function. I like your last animation posted above with pretty convincing changing shadows at sunrise.
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Feb 26 2019, 02:32 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 24-February 17 From: California Member No.: 8127 |
Thanks for posting some new animations to enjoy. Might be something outside your workflow, though it might look neat to try and add in some opposition effect if you're looking in the direction opposite the sun. It's hard for me to find an example of this (from orbit) for the moon, so I'll substitute one from the Hyabusa 2 spacecraft instead: http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp/en/topics/201...TD1R1A_W1movie/ This is the heiligenschein effect which is caused by very tiny glass beads in the regolith. The glass beads are created by micrometeorite bombardment. The same of course is seen in Apollo orbital and EVA photos. The Hapke parameters could be reversed to create the heiligenschein effect, based in solar incidence angle versus emission angle. |
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Feb 26 2019, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1669 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Boulder, CO Member No.: 184 |
I had thought heiligenschein was mainly associated with dewy grass on Earth - interesting that this also applies to glass beads on the moon.
I think a more general opposition surge phenemenon can happen with a greater variety of compositions, including dry grass on Earth or dry dust as well. Yes the Hapke terms (related to the notion of bi-directional reflectance distribution function - BRDF, or anisotropic reflectance factor - ARF) would be a more complete treatment. A quick approach might be a simple ARF using phase angle only that could be a correction to be multiplied by the original image. -------------------- Steve [ my home page and planetary maps page ]
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Mar 2 2019, 03:18 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 24-February 17 From: California Member No.: 8127 |
I had thought heiligenschein was mainly associated with dewy grass on Earth - interesting that this also applies to glass beads on the moon. I think a more general opposition surge phenomenon can happen with a greater variety of compositions, including dry grass on Earth or dry dust as well. Yes the Hapke terms (related to the notion of bi-directional reflectance distribution function - BRDF, or anisotropic reflectance factor - ARF) would be a more complete treatment. A quick approach might be a simple ARF using phase angle only that could be a correction to be multiplied by the original image. Dewy grass is the most obvious. Yet of course, other things also can create heiligenschein. Sean's works are amazing to watch. If he does decide to try anything, I agree that a simple ARF method would be the way to go, as it should be more than good enough to simulate the lunar heiligenschein effect. I don't think that he needs to be precise about it either. Doing calculations for a simple sphere, ignoring the actual terrain, probably would suffice nicely. Yet even slicker would be if Sean would add a global calibrated WAC color image overlay. The WAC filter numbers which best represent RGB are filters 7, 4 and 3 (listed in order of RGB). Following is a chart I made which shows the bandpasses of the WAC filters. As you can see, the blue filter #4 really is violet. I always end up having to perform a bit of a hue shift for blue when creating color WAC images in order to more accurately simulate what the human eye would see. |
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Sep 10 2019, 12:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 196 |
New release of LRO data for 3D imaging CGI Moon kit, surely to come in handy for all that free time i don't have
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Sep 10 2019, 09:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 923 Joined: 10-November 15 Member No.: 7837 |
Too much data! Not enough time!
Thanks for the input guys... I'll be sure to reference on my next trip to the Moon. -------------------- |
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Sep 10 2019, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
Funny little mnemonic in the terminology: Heiligenschein is German for "holy shine" and it is noticeable when you see the shadow of your own head in dewy grass and your head's shadow appears to be surrounded with a glowing halo, hence the angelic association. Of course, in that circumstance, your head itself always blocks out what would be the most intense location of the effect.
I'm hoping for good skies this year when Uranus is in opposition to see if I can use this to get a picture of Uranus' rings – fingers crossed. I'm pretty sure in that case I don't have to worry about the shadow of my head, or the Earth. |
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