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Jun 30 2007, 04:14 AM
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Jun 30 2007, 07:25 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
If we'd had HiRISE in real time, how many "Tesh-hours" of work would have been saved?
-------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jun 30 2007, 08:05 AM
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In the first HiRISE image of Victoria/Oppy, I don't remember the tracks leading up to the crater being as clear as that.
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Jun 30 2007, 12:41 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 581 Joined: 20-April 05 From: League City, Texas Member No.: 285 |
If we'd had HiRISE in real time, how many "Tesh-hours" of work would have been saved? And where would have been the fun in that? Navigation is fun |
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Jun 30 2007, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4165 Joined: 19-April 05 From: .br at .es Member No.: 253 |
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Jun 30 2007, 11:26 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2253 Joined: 30-October 04 Member No.: 105 |
Right, the route prognostications have been fun. But OTOH, it is fulfulling to see how close we have gotten to the correct path.
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Jul 1 2007, 02:42 AM
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Excellent job Tesheiner! The circle pattern made at the end of drives and at some turns really show up nicely in the HiRISE. Great for checking reference points.
-------------------- Floyd
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Jul 1 2007, 05:23 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2164 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
... I hope that, someday, a few places in the solar system are designated as something like wilderness reserves where overhead imagery is restricted to some low level (perhaps 100 km per pixel at best) so that rovers or people on the ground can have the joy of finding their way around and being the first to see whatever is over the next ridge. ... I'm with you on that thought. I enjoy nothing as much as exploring a wilderness with a compass, or even exploring a wilderness with the stars, or the moss on trees as my compass. I guess we'll have to wait for the map-projected Hi-Rise image as proof, but it seems pretty clear that our companion, Tesh, did a remarkable job of navigating for us. Many thanks to him for the effort. -------------------- ...Tom (thinks he should use more emoticons)
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Jul 2 2007, 12:53 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2740 Joined: 17-January 05 Member No.: 152 |
In the first HiRISE image of Victoria/Oppy, I don't remember the tracks leading up to the crater being as clear as that. There may be a couple of factors here. The tracks are most visible over the dark eastern part of the rim due to contrast.Another factor may be illumination angle. In this recent hazcam, the most recent set of tracks are quite a bit brighter on the left side of the image than the right. There's much less difference with the old tracks. We're getting (partial) specular reflection from the new, smooth tracks. Maybe this new MRO image caught the tracks at a favourable angle. BTW, as others have said, stunning job mapping our route, Tesheiner! |
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Jul 2 2007, 01:05 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1229 Joined: 24-December 05 From: The blue one in between the yellow and red ones. Member No.: 618 |
For sure, Freddo. The left track is up-sun. Look at the shadows.
-------------------- My Grandpa goes to Mars every day and all I get are these lousy T-shirts!
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Jul 2 2007, 04:39 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2164 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
The histograms for both of those HiRise images were very different. I think different processing is more likely the reason the tracks were more visible in the later image.
-------------------- ...Tom (thinks he should use more emoticons)
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Jul 3 2007, 09:11 PM
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I think, but I'm not sure (just edu-guessing, really), that the new image is from the blue-green channel. The upturned soil is bluer (less unblue?) than the surface stuff, making the contrast much greater than in the red channel.
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Jul 3 2007, 09:29 PM
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That could be another factor, in addition to illumination angle as I wrote above. Judging from the lengths of the cliff shadows, this latest image is under much more vertical solar illumination than the previous MRO Victoria images, which could enhance the brightness of the smooth tracks through partial specular reflection. It's definitely more than just image processing/stretching, since the tracks appear darker than the annulus on the earlier MRO images, but lighter than the annulus in the new image.
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Jul 4 2007, 06:30 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2164 Joined: 1-December 04 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Member No.: 116 |
I can imagine it might very well be a different filter. It might be interesting to look at the PDS-released data for differently filtered images. If the difference is due to processing, it probably isn't something as simple as contrast stretching. The histogram for this new image shows a smoothly bimodal distribution, which is distinctly different from the spiky, polymodal distributions displayed by the previous two images of Victoria.
It cannot be related to the solar incidence angle, since that seems to be essentially constant for any particular latitude. I assume that is a characteristic of MRO's orbit. The only thing that can change about the illumination angle is the compass direction the sunlight is coming from as it changes from season to season. But if that was the reason for more visible tracks, then tracks running in different directions would be expected to have a greater range of visibility than they do. The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that um3k is correct. The tracks in this new image are lighter than the annulus surface. In the previous, red-filtered images, the tracks were darker than the surface. -------------------- ...Tom (thinks he should use more emoticons)
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Jul 8 2007, 09:50 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2562 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Very close to the Pyrénées Mountains (France) Member No.: 682 |
You took the words of my mouth, algorimancer. I concoure. Even if Big Brother is looking over your shoulder it'll never see the berries YOU're able to use as references! -------------------- |
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