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Neptune Orbiter, Another proposed mission
Rob Pinnegar
post Nov 10 2005, 03:51 PM
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This seems like a good place to start off the Uranus and Neptune forum: with the next ice-giants mission.

I will admit to not knowing a whole lot about the Neptune Orbiter With Probes (NOWP), other than the fact that it's in the planning stages, and a few other details I've gathered from Wikipedia and various other Internet sources. Anyone care to get this one going with a bit more information?
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- Rob Pinnegar   Neptune Orbiter   Nov 10 2005, 03:51 PM
- - djellison   Where do you get the delta V to break into orbit a...   Mar 2 2007, 08:13 AM
- - nprev   Good points, Doug. It's sure easy to forget ...   Mar 3 2007, 03:13 PM
|- - Stephen   QUOTE (nprev @ Mar 4 2007, 02:13 AM) It...   Mar 8 2007, 07:17 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (Stephen @ Mar 7 2007, 11:17 PM) I ...   Mar 9 2007, 10:39 PM
- - tasp   The ~6 month orbit about Neptune is driven by the ...   Mar 3 2007, 04:18 PM
- - helvick   Tasp - NH is a flyby craft not an orbiter and its ...   Mar 3 2007, 04:50 PM
|- - tasp   QUOTE (helvick @ Mar 3 2007, 10:50 AM) Ta...   Mar 3 2007, 07:22 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (tasp @ Mar 3 2007, 11:22 AM) Can a...   Mar 5 2007, 10:34 AM
- - djellison   RTG powered ion propulsion, that's VERY VERY o...   Mar 3 2007, 05:12 PM
- - vjkane2000   It is so difficult to get a craft to Neptune in a ...   Mar 3 2007, 05:53 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (vjkane2000 @ Mar 3 2007, 07:53 AM)...   Mar 5 2007, 07:08 PM
|- - PhilHorzempa   QUOTE (vjkane2000 @ Mar 3 2007, 02:53 PM)...   Mar 17 2007, 11:05 PM
- - djellison   You're talking about a flagship mission, which...   Mar 3 2007, 07:28 PM
|- - Rob Pinnegar   QUOTE (djellison @ Mar 3 2007, 12:28 PM) ...   Mar 5 2007, 03:15 PM
- - tasp   {For 'just wanting to throw out some ideas...   Mar 5 2007, 02:46 PM
- - J.J.   Honestly, I'd just be happy with a cheap NH-ty...   Mar 5 2007, 04:35 PM
|- - JRehling   I think to a considerable extent, Uranus and Neptu...   Mar 5 2007, 06:58 PM
- - dvandorn   I hate to say this, but I really think that extens...   Mar 6 2007, 02:08 AM
- - algorimancer   Of course, Nasa administrators commonly change wit...   Mar 27 2007, 03:52 PM
|- - PhilHorzempa   [quote name='algorimancer' date='Mar 2...   Mar 28 2007, 04:06 PM
- - nprev   True enough...just wish there was some way to prog...   Mar 28 2007, 01:30 AM
- - djellison   Ahem. Politics people - stop dancing with the rul...   Mar 28 2007, 05:20 PM
|- - JRehling   BAD QUOTING - STOP IT - Doug I think the turn of ...   Mar 28 2007, 06:09 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Here's a question: why is the distance such a ...   Mar 28 2007, 11:36 PM
|- - JRehling   BAD QUOTING - STOP IT - Doug For a flyby like NH,...   Mar 29 2007, 12:15 AM
- - algorimancer   What I'd like to see is a paradigm shift over ...   Mar 29 2007, 01:07 PM
|- - JRehling   BAD QUOTING..STOP IT - THREE BY YOU IN ONE PAGE - ...   Mar 29 2007, 05:23 PM
- - helvick   Danger Will Robinson - Serious arm waving ahead. ...   Mar 29 2007, 06:10 PM
- - tty   Being an aerospace person I feel I have to do some...   Mar 29 2007, 07:49 PM
- - djellison   Basically - you're not going to the outer sola...   Mar 29 2007, 07:53 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I wonder if someone can double-check my figures he...   Mar 30 2007, 12:11 AM
- - helvick   Greg - I think your numbers are correct but I...   Mar 30 2007, 01:49 AM
- - tasp   Imagine, if you will, an ion engined probe, alread...   Mar 30 2007, 03:58 AM
|- - tty   QUOTE (tasp @ Mar 30 2007, 05:58 AM) Imag...   Mar 30 2007, 06:54 PM
- - algorimancer   Let me address a few issues related to the micro-p...   Mar 30 2007, 01:15 PM
- - helvick   Clearly the challenges are pretty serious but I...   Mar 30 2007, 09:22 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE you clearly know much more about transfer or...   Mar 31 2007, 07:22 PM
- - nprev   Very, very innovative thinking here...love it...   Mar 31 2007, 10:25 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I was going to argue the point, but doing my own c...   Mar 31 2007, 10:43 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Okay, I figure the best you can do with Triton (sh...   Apr 1 2007, 03:54 AM
- - tty   I agree with practically all you say. As for using...   Apr 1 2007, 05:07 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Oh I knew it wouldn't work, but that's dif...   Apr 1 2007, 07:27 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Now I see why Nasa is so big on gravity assists; o...   Apr 1 2007, 08:18 PM
- - tasp   I appreciate your doing the numbers on this. I ha...   Apr 1 2007, 10:03 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Well, if we used one of the NSTAR ion engines that...   Apr 2 2007, 12:26 AM
- - mchan   Err, I am not up on reviewing the numbers in the r...   Apr 2 2007, 02:39 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Oops! I included the mass of the engine, but ...   Apr 3 2007, 01:35 AM
- - dvandorn   The problem with a low-thrust spiral-out from the ...   Apr 3 2007, 02:47 AM
- - mchan   For a NEP mission, the reactor startup needs to be...   Apr 3 2007, 03:50 AM
- - tasp   To refine this a bit further; Would it save ion t...   Apr 3 2007, 02:43 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I think the trick is to refrain from trying to use...   Apr 3 2007, 03:30 PM
|- - tty   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 3 2007, 05:30...   Apr 4 2007, 08:28 PM
- - remcook   I've seen transfer orbits to Mars with low and...   Apr 3 2007, 03:37 PM
- - Cugel   Bruce Moomaw is currently writing a very interesti...   Apr 4 2007, 01:13 PM
- - algorimancer   >Trouble is, the math for that is a bit challen...   Apr 4 2007, 05:26 PM
- - helvick   Bruce's article describes a Neptune orbiter mi...   Apr 4 2007, 08:05 PM
- - Greg Hullender   True, and it actually requires a good bit more del...   Apr 4 2007, 09:16 PM
- - volcanopele   I don't know if this was mentioned earlier, bu...   Apr 4 2007, 09:43 PM
- - helvick   To return to a question nprev asked earlier about ...   Apr 4 2007, 11:01 PM
- - algorimancer   Back to the propulsion question, one of the CubeSa...   Apr 5 2007, 05:27 PM
- - Greg Hullender   I was surprised by Bruce's implication that Ne...   Apr 6 2007, 12:07 AM
- - helvick   At the risk of going waaay off topic here I just h...   Apr 6 2007, 01:16 AM
- - helvick   QUOTE The unavoidable overhead of propellant stora...   Apr 6 2007, 01:37 AM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (helvick @ Apr 5 2007, 06:37 PM) Th...   Apr 6 2007, 01:43 AM
- - Greg Hullender   Algorimancer and nprev: What am I missing here? W...   Apr 6 2007, 04:07 AM
|- - algorimancer   QUOTE (Greg Hullender @ Apr 5 2007, 11:07...   Apr 6 2007, 02:22 PM
|- - djellison   QUOTE (algorimancer @ Apr 6 2007, 03:22 P...   Apr 6 2007, 03:02 PM
- - nprev   I might be off-base here entirely, but based on th...   Apr 6 2007, 04:20 AM
- - djellison   Where are you going to get the power from...AND......   Apr 6 2007, 08:30 AM
- - edstrick   (evil grin) I got it all figured out... A dilithiu...   Apr 6 2007, 09:06 AM
- - helvick   Doug, Just to be clear - I don't think any of...   Apr 6 2007, 11:23 AM
- - centsworth_II   Sorry I'm late, but I've got to know: Whil...   Apr 6 2007, 02:47 PM
- - Greg Hullender   When I first read a proposal for "Grand Tour,...   Apr 6 2007, 08:23 PM
- - nprev   The cancelled Mars Telecommunications Orbiter woul...   Apr 6 2007, 10:28 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (nprev @ Apr 6 2007, 03:28 PM) Mayb...   Apr 6 2007, 10:42 PM
|- - nprev   QUOTE (JRehling @ Apr 6 2007, 03:42 PM) T...   Apr 6 2007, 10:55 PM
- - helvick   Algorimancer sugggested the multi-megapixel camera...   Apr 6 2007, 10:48 PM
- - Greg Hullender   Frankly, I proposed a geosynchronous Earth orbit s...   Apr 7 2007, 03:49 AM
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