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JWST and Exoplanet Atmospheres
JRehling
post Sep 14 2021, 05:44 PM
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In the next year, if all goes well, JWST will have begun collecting data on the composition of terrestrial exoplanet atmospheres. This is potentially one of the most exciting developments in the history of science, but it's not going to be easy; here is a very informative preview:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.04139

Perhaps the key point is that, with the given signal to noise ratios, it may be possible to derive spectra with remarkable fidelity and spectral resolution, but the weak signal in most or all possible cases means that the number of required observations, to build up the signal, will be prohibitive given the limited lifespan of JWST and the large number of systems that we'll want to observe. Rather than campaigns that produce detailed spectra of many candidate "earthlike" planets, we will see the observation time divided amongst many exoplanets and spectra with moderate detail – but likely enough to determine presence or non presence of key molecules. This still depends, of course, upon the exoplanets themselves, whose atmospheres, surfaces, and clouds may make the signal weaker or stronger in any particular case, and those are variables which we cannot possibly control or predict.

To add some sad detail to this, the paper calculates that for some desired measurements, the number of transits that would have to be observed would be over 100 or even 1000, and this is flatly impossible. If the JWST were devoted to the observation of just one particularly special exoplanet and we wished to ignore all other uses of the telescope, this threshold would still be impossible, and obviously, there is no lack of priority targets for the telescope.

Among some molecules of highest interest, the ease of detection will be, in descending ease, CH4, CO2, H2O, O2, and for the planets in the TRAPPIST-1 system, the number of required observations to provide a useful signal for O2 will be on the order of 40.

It seems likely that what we'll see is campaigns to obtain some spectral data for about 15-25 (that is my sense, not a definitive total) candidate "earthlike" planets over JWST's first three or so years, and then more sustained campaigns to follow up on those planets that look most promising after the initial surveys. Overall, the use of JWST for this type of observation will require a very strategic budgeting of the resource of observation time, giving us a little data about a lot of the candidates, and – hopefully – much better data on the few most promising cases. The end result will depend on details that we can only guess at now.

No matter what turns up from JWST, there will always be the opportunity and need for future instruments to extend the studies outward and examine the candidates a little farther. If JWST's "horizon" for this sort of science is a radius of X parsecs, then a future instrument with 4 times the light gathering would extend it to 2X parsecs, and a volume in space 8 times greater. JWST will be the beginning of a great exploration outwards that will never conclude so long as we can keep building bigger and better instruments, decade by decade.
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- JRehling   JWST and Exoplanet Atmospheres   Sep 14 2021, 05:44 PM
- - Mongo   The JWST General Observer Programs in Cycle 1 incl...   Jan 2 2022, 11:01 PM
|- - JRehling   This is tremendous. Many – perhaps most – of the C...   Jan 3 2022, 01:09 AM
- - Mongo   Here are the specific observations of the red dwar...   Jan 3 2022, 01:34 AM
- - Mongo   There is also the following: GTO 1201 (193.6 hrs)...   Jan 3 2022, 01:51 AM
|- - Mongo   Combined transit list for the TRAPPIST-1 system: ...   Jan 3 2022, 02:04 AM
- - Decepticon   What!? Proxima Centauri is not on those lis...   Jan 3 2022, 08:49 AM
- - Hungry4info   Proxima Cen b is not a transiting planet.   Jan 3 2022, 11:17 AM
|- - JRehling   Reading between the lines (or in the proposals), t...   Jan 3 2022, 12:56 PM
|- - Mongo   More planned TRAPPIST-1 observations: GTO 1177 (7...   Jan 3 2022, 01:31 PM
|- - Mongo   For context, the various programs listed above tot...   Jan 3 2022, 01:46 PM
|- - JRehling   Thanks for these updates, Mongo. A key point, sim...   Jan 4 2022, 03:39 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   This is a fascinating topic. I looked over the pro...   Jan 25 2022, 10:25 PM
- - StargazeInWonder   Another very important planet that will be observe...   Jun 3 2022, 05:15 AM
- - Hungry4info   The HST H2O detection is not particularly secure. ...   Jun 3 2022, 09:22 AM
|- - StargazeInWonder   That is important caution; I should have said that...   Jun 3 2022, 01:07 PM
- - climber   New technique to detect oxygen in exoplanet atmosp...   Jun 4 2022, 08:12 AM
- - Mongo   For those interested, here are the JWST observing ...   Aug 25 2022, 10:00 PM
- - Tom Tamlyn   QUOTE (climber @ Jun 4 2022, 03:12 AM) Qu...   Aug 26 2022, 03:59 AM
- - climber   Thanks so much Tom, I’ll certainly take your advic...   Aug 26 2022, 09:34 PM
- - Mongo   Early Release Science of the exoplanet WASP-39b wi...   Nov 22 2022, 02:20 AM
- - Bill Harris   Thanks for these updates, Mongo. Not so much as ...   Nov 22 2022, 03:26 AM
- - Mongo   Had tried to upload this listing of Trappist-1 obs...   Dec 3 2022, 03:15 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   JWST gets first glimpse of 7-planet system with po...   Dec 15 2022, 01:06 AM
|- - StargazeInWonder   Looking at the transiting terrestrial exoplanets t...   Dec 28 2022, 06:55 AM
|- - HSchirmer   QUOTE (StargazeInWonder @ Dec 28 2022, 07...   Dec 28 2022, 01:56 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   QUOTE (HSchirmer @ Dec 28 2022, 05:56 AM)...   Dec 28 2022, 10:42 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   The matter of transiting planets aside, there is o...   Jan 2 2023, 10:14 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   Landmark result being reported today: TRAPPIST-1 b...   Mar 27 2023, 11:40 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   Further analysis of the TRAPPIST-1 b observations ...   Jun 1 2023, 11:19 PM
|- - StargazeInWonder   The scorecard for TRAPPIST-1 is now Vacuums 2, Atm...   Jun 23 2023, 09:22 AM
- - Hungry4info   The planet-star radius ratio is definitely importa...   Dec 28 2022, 02:14 PM
- - StargazeInWonder   This paper about LHS 475b almost certainly lends a...   Sep 1 2023, 10:15 AM
- - Quetzalcoatl   Bonjour, Interesting detection of atmospheric ga...   Sep 12 2023, 10:07 AM
- - Quetzalcoatl   Bonjour, Webb Detects Tiny Quartz Crystals in the...   Oct 18 2023, 07:38 AM
|- - StargazeInWonder   There is the parable about someone looking for the...   Oct 18 2023, 09:42 PM
- - Quetzalcoatl   Bonjour, NASA’s Webb Identifies Methane In an Exo...   Nov 23 2023, 02:52 PM
- - StargazeInWonder   It's interesting that methane has been elusive...   Nov 24 2023, 04:08 AM
- - StargazeInWonder   Another case of JWST finding that a hot terrestria...   Jan 5 2024, 08:12 PM


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