New Phobos Names |
New Phobos Names |
Dec 5 2006, 08:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Moderator Posts: 3231 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Tucson, AZ Member No.: 23 |
There are a few new names for use on Phobos. These include Grildrig (Corona?) and the craters Clustril, Drunlo, Flimnap, Gulliver, Limtoc, Reldresal, and Skyresh.
Any chance of a map with these names? -------------------- &@^^!% Jim! I'm a geologist, not a physicist!
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Jan 25 2007, 07:12 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10146 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The map showing these names should be available within a few days. It has taken some effort to obtain.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 25 2007, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Admin Posts: 4763 Joined: 15-March 05 From: Glendale, AZ Member No.: 197 |
Those names sound Tolkienesque.
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Jan 25 2007, 08:11 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10146 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
I was the author of an alternate nomenculatural scheme for both Phobos and Deimos, derived from the Iliad and other classical sources, but the IAU rejected it.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 25 2007, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Those names sound Tolkienesque. They sound like naasmarg to me! Bbo hawS -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jan 25 2007, 11:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2511 Joined: 13-September 05 Member No.: 497 |
Any chance of a map with these names? http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/images/Phobos_comp.pdf Seems a little odd that these names (which are all from GULLIVER'S TRAVELS) are on Phobos when Swift is on Deimos. But the Illiad would have been more appropriate on one of the Saturnian satellites (The Odyssey is being used on Tethys.) -------------------- Disclaimer: This post is based on public information only. Any opinions are my own.
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Jan 26 2007, 05:22 PM
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Ah, the Moons of Mars… in Greek mythology, Phobos and Deimos were the horses pulling the chariot of Mars, the god of war. The Romans called Phobos “Pavor” and Deimos “Pallor” in their god worship.
Two years ago I wrote, with the help of Philip Stooke and Ralp Turner, an article on mapping the Martian moons. Those UMSF readers interested in it, can send me an e-mail |
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Jan 26 2007, 07:27 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10146 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Phobos and Deimos are referred to in the Iliad, hence the connection. The real problem was that the Working Group didn't like the military association. A member, supporting me, tried to sell the Iliad as a love story, but they didn't buy it.
This map Mike linked to was the one we were waiting for. Neukum only gave permission yesterday. Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 26 2007, 07:30 PM
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A member, supporting me, tried to sell the Iliad as a love story, but they didn't buy it. That's like trying to sell Lolita as a children's story |
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Jan 26 2007, 08:19 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10146 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
Well, it starts out as a love story. The rest is just filler.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Jan 26 2007, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2488 Joined: 17-April 05 From: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Member No.: 239 |
Well, it starts out as a love story. The rest is just filler. Phil Phil: I *hope* that's not Lolita you're describing! On a more, er, heavenly note: are the Phobos names based on MEX observations of new features? Bob Shaw -------------------- Remember: Time Flies like the wind - but Fruit Flies like bananas!
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Jan 27 2007, 12:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1582 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Vermont Member No.: 530 |
The denizens of the flying island of Laputa in Gulliver's Travels had discovered two moons of mars... and Gulliver was published well before the satellites were actually discovered. So, neat.
However, Laputa was left out as a place name perhaps because it means "The Whore" in Spanish. Too bad. |
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Guest_PhilCo126_* |
Jan 27 2007, 10:22 AM
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Indeed;
Remarkably, the idea that the planet Mars might have two satellites was also introduced in the books " Gulliver's Travels " by Jonathan Swift (1726), " Die Geschwinde Reise auf dem Luft-Schiff nach Obern Welt " by Eberhard Kindermann (1744) and " Micromégas " by Voltaire (1750). Earlier, Johannes Kepler, believer in the harmonic numerology of the solar system,made the assumption of 2 moons for Mars and 4 moons for Jupiter. Thanks Bob for sharing that remarkable photo! |
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Jan 27 2007, 02:38 PM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10146 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
The image bases are from Mars Express, but the craters were known before from Viking (and in some cases even Mariner 9). None of them were discovered in Mars Express images.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
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Feb 28 2008, 11:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 20-November 07 Member No.: 3967 |
Here is a constant-scale natural boundary map of Phobos; primary ridges are the map edge. A poster by Pam Clark, Phil Stooke and me to be presented at lpi week after next. this one doesn't fold to a very good likeness because it is a very compact map. I'll post another in a minute with extensive ridge boundary, which, I say with confidence although
I haven't had a chance to fold it up yet, will fold to a good likeness of Phobos. |
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