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Panorama Stitching, Rick Szeliski's Work Is the Best
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post Aug 17 2006, 09:20 PM
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I noticed the thread on Photosynth and thought I would add a little more about that research group. I know Rick Szeliski and Matt Uyttendaele, very smart people.

I've tried pretty much all of the panorama stitchers out there. Adobe's is by far the worst, and Microsoft's is by far the best. Szeliski's algorithms are currently found in Microsoft Image Suite 2006. Unlike most stitchers, it is based on a robust treatment of the general camera projective transformations, so it can handle rotations, panning, zooming and even limited camera-position changes (modulo big visiblity changes of course).

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Here's an example that first impressed me. In a Soviet documentary film I own, they discuss this diagram of the Venera soil-drilling apparatus, but they never show the whole diagram. They pan around and zoom in and out, and I didn't expect to be able to resolve all that into one image. I was quite surprised when Rick's program did it.

An updated version of the stitcher is in a new product, Microsoft Graphic Designer, which will give users more control over a big class of transformations (affine, homography, 3D rotation, etc). It handles lens distortion and a variety of projection surfaces. I haven't tried it myself yet. link

I have Panorama Factory and Autostitcher of course, but I never use them now, they are nowhere near as powerful as DIS2006.

Uyttendaele also recommended a program to me called ptlens for some non-projective transformations like vignetting.
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post Sep 26 2006, 11:28 AM
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The very simple fact is that the Cassini Imaging team is NOT doing it's job getting the public what it's paying for. We are not getting good periapsis-pass previews (That's the Project's PIO fault, mostly), we're getting dribs-and-drabs of 1 megapixel small press release images.

Then we get the dog-in-a-manger growls from Carolin being porky about us raiding her (I've more then once gotten the impression that it's grudgingly) posted "raw" data. The latest annoyance is the block on ftp style batch downloads from the cassini raw pages that started last summer. They may carp all they want about mass downloaders hogging the bandwidth, but we don't hear that whining from the MER people or the Exploratorium. I'm afraid it's simply an attempt to make it much more work for amateurs to do something substantially better than the team is doing but with substantially worse starting data.

What the stupididity is, is that this hampers all of the many un-paid promoters of planetary exploration out here, giving talks or one-on-one pushing space at public events like last months World Science Fiction Convention in LA (I was on 7 panels, and though none were slide-show or video presentations, I came loaded with piles of pictures, including Enceladus mosaics better than anything the team has doled out to the underserving public.

I'd better stop ranting before I start calling people things.....
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- DonPMitchell   Panorama Stitching   Aug 17 2006, 09:20 PM
- - Malmer   Thats very cool. I have used ptGui and it works v...   Sep 17 2006, 10:36 PM
|- - mars loon   Mattias, very nice job on your immense saturn por...   Sep 18 2006, 12:14 AM
|- - Malmer   QUOTE (mars loon @ Sep 18 2006, 02:14 AM)...   Sep 25 2006, 06:27 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 07:27 PM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 10:48 AM
|- - DonPMitchell   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 11:27 AM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 02:26 PM
||- - djellison   QUOTE (DonPMitchell @ Sep 26 2006, 03:26 ...   Sep 26 2006, 03:30 PM
||- - ugordan   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 26 2006, 04:30 PM)...   Sep 26 2006, 03:44 PM
|- - Ian R   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 07:27 PM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 05:58 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 08:27 PM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 06:41 PM
|- - ElkGroveDan   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 10:27 AM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 07:07 PM
- - Stu   QUOTE (Malmer @ Sep 25 2006, 06:27 PM) Th...   Sep 26 2006, 10:08 AM
- - djellison   Not the first time CP has responded negatively to ...   Sep 26 2006, 11:10 AM
- - edstrick   The very simple fact is that the Cassini Imaging t...   Sep 26 2006, 11:28 AM
- - ljk4-1   This might also explain what went on with the Cass...   Sep 26 2006, 12:47 PM
- - remcook   QUOTE (ugordan @ Sep 26 2006, 11:48 AM) I...   Sep 26 2006, 03:09 PM
- - Phil Stooke   My understanding was that the public release of da...   Sep 26 2006, 06:03 PM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (Phil Stooke @ Sep 26 2006, 08:03 A...   Sep 26 2006, 06:07 PM
- - Toma B   ...and some more bad news... QUOTE She also is the...   Sep 26 2006, 06:46 PM
- - djellison   We HAVE seen the first Jupiter image - and we are ...   Sep 26 2006, 06:58 PM
- - Malmer   Easy now! Dont you all go on a rampage over t...   Sep 27 2006, 08:59 AM
- - edstrick   Actually, the most useful panorama stitcher is a g...   Sep 27 2006, 09:53 AM
- - djellison   When the shed-office is finished, I have two plans...   Sep 27 2006, 09:59 AM
|- - AlexBlackwell   QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 26 2006, 11:59 PM)...   Sep 27 2006, 06:56 PM
- - djellison   Oops - cunning remote image link blocking...but I ...   Sep 27 2006, 07:00 PM
- - Bjorn Jonsson   There is one thing that needs to be taken into acc...   Sep 27 2006, 09:27 PM


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