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Vladimir R
Posted on: Sep 9 2008, 11:54 PM


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hm one interesting question smile.gif

If i go with balloon on 120.000 ft and then just "left" payload but with only 10 grams How much time will be needed to come back to Earth?
(just small box for example)

(offcourse without parachute) :s

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Vladimir R
Posted on: Feb 27 2008, 04:07 AM


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QUOTE (dvandorn @ Feb 27 2008, 04:52 AM) *
Free fall is the key way of describing it. A satellite in orbit is always falling towards the Earth, at the standard rate at which any object falls toward the Earth from that height. It's just going fast enough in a vector, as Nick pointed out, transverse to "down" that the Earth's curved surface falls away from the satellite as fast as the satellite falls toward it.

-the other Doug


Interesting smile.gif now i understund much better.
Can you tell me why then if we have some balloon at (for example) on 30-40km altitude (when burst) payload must fall on Earth? And then something above 100km never fall?
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Vladimir R
Posted on: Feb 27 2008, 02:46 AM


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QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 26 2008, 09:35 AM) *
There are balloons that can go higher, but they tend to be much larger, and much much MUCH more expensive. If you're lucky and have a small payload, a typical met-balloon might reach 120,000ft, but not significantly more than that.


Ok thx for explanation but can you tell me why we have a limit at 120k ft? only because of lower pressure?
Do you have some example what ballon they use for that altititude? ('much larger, and much much MUCH more expensive.")

thanks again
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Vladimir R
Posted on: Feb 27 2008, 02:31 AM


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WIKIPEDIA

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Altitude

Gravity decreases with altitude, since greater altitude means greater distance from the Earth's centre. All other things being equal, an increase in altitude from sea level to the top of Mount Everest (8,850 metres) causes a weight decrease of about 0.28%. (An additional factor affecting apparent weight is the decrease in air density at altitude, which lessens an object's buoyancy.[3]) It is a common misconception that astronauts in orbit are weightless because they have flown high enough to "escape" the Earth's gravity. In fact, at an altitude of 400 kilometres (250 miles), equivalent to a typical orbit of the Space Shuttle, gravity is still nearly 90% as strong as at the Earth's surface, and weightlessness actually occurs because orbiting objects are in free-fall.


I don't understund this quite well.
On 400 kilometers is 90% of Earth greavity.??? That is a little bit strange because i read some text on Internet "everybody who rich 100 km is astronaut".

There is Karaman Line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_line) at 100 km





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Vladimir R
Posted on: Feb 26 2008, 07:17 AM


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QUOTE (djellison @ Feb 24 2008, 10:59 AM) *
The balloon grows as the atmospheric pressure outside decreases. This maintains it's buoyancy - but eventually it just expands so much, the rubber/latex can't cope and it breaks. For balloons of this type, that typically happens at about 100,000 ft.


Thx for explanation.

Is there any other balloons wich can rich more then 100,000 ft??
And what about gravity on 100,000 altitude? is less then on the Earth surfice ??

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Vladimir R
Posted on: Feb 24 2008, 04:31 AM


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Can someone explain me (on easy way) why 'burst' balloon happend on 30-40 km altitude?
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