IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
New push for space nuclear power, Call for Discovery proposals using advanced RTGs
Tom Womack
post Sep 30 2007, 12:32 PM
Post #1


Junior Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 22
Joined: 3-January 07
Member No.: 1551



http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1237

reprints an interesting Aviation Week article suggesting a push for proposals for new Discovery-sized missions to use closed-loop Stirling cycle nuclear power systems, aiming for launch around 2013. It's unclear how the shortage of 238Pu is being resolved, though the Stirling-cycle devices use two 250W_thermal units of 238Pu for 143W output, whilst the Cassini/New Horizons RTG uses eighteen units for 285W electrical output.

http://nspires.nasaprs.com/external/viewre...ationDocument=1 is a summary of the specs of the Advanced Stirling Radioisotope Generator; http://esto.nasa.gov/conferences/nstc2007/...ations/D2P1.pdf is quite a nice presentation of the technology development.

The engineering history seems to be by way of Stirling-type cryocoolers, of which ten have been running for more than 10k hours each.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
SpaceListener
post Oct 1 2007, 07:00 PM
Post #2


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 279
Joined: 19-August 07
Member No.: 3299



Good improvement in RPS System efficiency between the RTG powered by Cassini Spacecraft and the present model ASRG: 6.35% versus over 30%. However, the electric output power (Watts) versus weight has improved by 67% (285 Watts for 56 kg -5.09 W/kg versus 160 Watts (estimate) for 19 kgs (estimate) -8.5 W/kg).

The probably future spacecraft: Titan Explorer, REP(?) & Europe Geophysical Explorer will be powerd by ASRG.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
algorimancer
post Oct 2 2007, 12:48 PM
Post #3


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 656
Joined: 20-April 05
From: League City, Texas
Member No.: 285



QUOTE (Tom Womack @ Sep 30 2007, 07:32 AM) *
...unclear how the shortage of 238Pu is being resolved...

Seems like the Russians ought to have plenty of plutonium lying about which they'd be happy to sell to a legitimate buyer - or is there some rule prohibiting Nasa from buying Pu from foreign nations?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Del Palmer
post Oct 2 2007, 02:19 PM
Post #4


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 213
Joined: 21-January 07
From: Wigan, England
Member No.: 1638



QUOTE (algorimancer @ Oct 2 2007, 01:48 PM) *
Seems like the Russians ought to have plenty of plutonium lying about which they'd be happy to sell to a legitimate buyer - or is there some rule prohibiting Nasa from buying Pu from foreign nations?


NASA has bought 238Pu from Russia for years (or at least, the Department of Energy does so on its behalf).


--------------------
"I got a call from NASA Headquarters wanting a color picture of Venus. I said, “What color would you like it?” - Laurance R. Doyle, former JPL image processing guy
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
vjkane
post Oct 4 2007, 08:32 PM
Post #5


Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 706
Joined: 22-April 05
Member No.: 351



I am worried about how many new non-Mars missions this technology will allow. I've just been reviewing the Juno website, and it is about as simple of an outer planets mission as possible, and it required the New Frontiers level of funding. (One possible caveat: Perhaps the costs of the instruments drives the mission, rather than the need to reach and operate beyond Mars). Will cheap, low wattage (~250 w) nuclear power really enable new types of missions?

I have no doubt that this will be very useful at Mars for long-lived geophysical (seismology and weather) stations and for small rovers. But the cost of Juno suggests that the lack of RTGs is not what is eliminating outer planet missions from Discovery.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 16th April 2024 - 10:49 AM
RULES AND GUIDELINES
Please read the Forum Rules and Guidelines before posting.

IMAGE COPYRIGHT
Images posted on UnmannedSpaceflight.com may be copyrighted. Do not reproduce without permission. Read here for further information on space images and copyright.

OPINIONS AND MODERATION
Opinions expressed on UnmannedSpaceflight.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of UnmannedSpaceflight.com or The Planetary Society. The all-volunteer UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderation team is wholly independent of The Planetary Society. The Planetary Society has no influence over decisions made by the UnmannedSpaceflight.com moderators.
SUPPORT THE FORUM
Unmannedspaceflight.com is funded by the Planetary Society. Please consider supporting our work and many other projects by donating to the Society or becoming a member.