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Nh - The Launch Thread, Godspeed little one
djellison
post Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was time, with the Atlas V about to roll out - for a new thread for NH for the launch etc.

Someone asked over at the HZ just how NH can go so fast, this was my reply....

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How do you get a spacecraft to Jupiter in under a year? Easy. Make it very very light, and put it on a very very big rocket. The config of Atlas V rocket being used to launch NH (551 - 5m fairing, 5 solids, and one engine on the Centaur stage ) would typically put 8,670kg into GTO or 20,520 into LEO.
New Horizons is 478kg, and it's Star 48B 3rd stage is 2,137kg - so instead of hauling 20 tons, this vehicle is hauling about 2.5 tons thus you get a HUGE velocity out of it. AND, once it's done that, you have the final kick of the 48B, 591 thousand kgs-s (thus accelerating is all a further 3.5 - 4km/s ball park speed, if my maths is right)
At launch - the vehicle is 573,160kg. NH is 0.083% of it.
Imagine the Apollo entry capsule on top of a Saturn V...tiny tiny tiny... that was 5,800 kg on a 3,038,500kg rocket - 0.191% - more than double that percentage of NH. The cutaway's are almost comical, with this tiny gold-clad box on an enormous vehicle.
Basically - it's a LOT of rocket, and not a lot of payload.
For comparison, look how much fuss was made of Stardust that entered so quickly. It took >16 hrs to get from the distance of the moon to Utah. NH makes that journey in 9 hours smile.gif
One thing the NH mission is not short of, is superlatives.


I'm not one for good luck charms (although I'll eat peanuts during a Martian EDL with the best of them), but this mission has been so long in coming, that it deserves every ounce of luck it can have - the best, most accurate launch possible, the cleanest checkout, and incident free cruise to Jupiter.

Goodluck and Godspeed little one, we're with you every step of the way.

Doug
PS - Alan, you're a credit to your field, spending so much time answering questions and writing the PI Perspectives, it's been a hell of a journey!
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- djellison   Nh - The Launch Thread   Jan 16 2006, 03:08 PM
- - lyford   jamescanvin can go back to bed for a bit then....   Jan 17 2006, 06:16 PM
- - Redstone   Good view on NASA TV now of the wind in the palm t...   Jan 17 2006, 06:18 PM
- - Rob Pinnegar   Get them fingers crossed lads (and lasses)! He...   Jan 17 2006, 06:20 PM
- - Sunspot   1824 GMT (1:24 p.m. EST) A new flight profile bas...   Jan 17 2006, 06:26 PM
- - Ames   Engineering Poll and Advisory Poll complete and al...   Jan 17 2006, 06:36 PM
|- - MahFL   Wind is dropping   Jan 17 2006, 06:39 PM
- - RNeuhaus   The Pluto URL http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/index.php is...   Jan 17 2006, 06:39 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 17 2006, 06:39 PM)The P...   Jan 17 2006, 06:40 PM
|- - Redstone   Rodolfo, http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/   Jan 17 2006, 06:42 PM
- - Ames   T0 at 19:10 Time to put the kettle on. Or go gr...   Jan 17 2006, 06:39 PM
- - PhilCo126   Does anybody know of the great features shown at N...   Jan 17 2006, 06:47 PM
- - dvandorn   I feel a little guilty, what with all of you tryin...   Jan 17 2006, 06:49 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 17 2006, 01:49 PM)I fee...   Jan 17 2006, 06:57 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Jan 17 2006, 07:57 PM)May I re...   Jan 17 2006, 07:00 PM
||- - Jeff7   QUOTE (ugordan @ Jan 17 2006, 02:00 PM)Person...   Jan 17 2006, 07:08 PM
|- - dvandorn   QUOTE (Jeff7 @ Jan 17 2006, 12:57 PM)May I re...   Jan 17 2006, 07:00 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Great boys, Now I am able to see thru the NASA...   Jan 17 2006, 06:51 PM
|- - ugordan   QUOTE (RNeuhaus @ Jan 17 2006, 07:51 PM)Now I...   Jan 17 2006, 06:53 PM
- - mchan   While waiting, I checked the Front Page and see th...   Jan 17 2006, 06:53 PM
|- - ugordan   Damn! 19:30 GMT new T0...   Jan 17 2006, 06:56 PM
- - Toma B   Spaceflightnow.com 1852 GMT (1:52 p.m. EST) A Lock...   Jan 17 2006, 06:54 PM
|- - MahFL   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 06:54 PM)1852 GM...   Jan 17 2006, 06:56 PM
||- - MahFL   NEW LAUNCH TIME. Liftoff has been pushed back to 2...   Jan 17 2006, 06:58 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Delayed to 19:30 GMT.   Jan 17 2006, 06:57 PM
|- - helvick   T0 now at 19:30 Z, 14:30 EST.   Jan 17 2006, 06:57 PM
- - PhilCo126   Well, Attempts to develop a new flight profile to ...   Jan 17 2006, 06:56 PM
- - RNeuhaus   In the afternoon, around Florida usually have lots...   Jan 17 2006, 06:59 PM
- - PhilCo126   Does anybody know if there's an onboard camera...   Jan 17 2006, 07:02 PM
|- - yaohua2000   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 07:02 PM)Does...   Jan 17 2006, 07:06 PM
||- - Toma B   QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 10:06 PM)Yes...   Jan 17 2006, 07:08 PM
||- - yaohua2000   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 07:08 PM)Where d...   Jan 17 2006, 07:11 PM
||- - Toma B   QUOTE (yaohua2000 @ Jan 17 2006, 10:11 PM)I d...   Jan 17 2006, 07:15 PM
||- - ugordan   AFAIK, there are no cameras mounted on the rocket,...   Jan 17 2006, 07:16 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 10:02 PM)Does...   Jan 17 2006, 07:06 PM
|- - yaohua2000   QUOTE (Toma B @ Jan 17 2006, 07:06 PM)No, the...   Jan 17 2006, 07:08 PM
- - elakdawalla   Did anybody catch what that anomalous-sounding ann...   Jan 17 2006, 07:05 PM
- - ilbasso   Antigua tracking station offline due to a transmit...   Jan 17 2006, 07:07 PM
- - Analyst   It feels like a scrub day. But you never know.   Jan 17 2006, 07:08 PM
- - Ames   Launch is No-Go with current upper winds We have ...   Jan 17 2006, 07:10 PM
- - Bill Harris   Intellicast Winds is not _the_ authoritative sourc...   Jan 17 2006, 07:11 PM
- - Sunspot   arghhhhh the tension lol   Jan 17 2006, 07:14 PM
- - Redstone   I don't see any mention of NH on the company w...   Jan 17 2006, 07:15 PM
- - Ames   New profile sucessfully calculated and loaded into...   Jan 17 2006, 07:15 PM
- - dvandorn   The tension in this room is palpable, gentlemen......   Jan 17 2006, 07:18 PM
- - Ames   [HOLD IT!] - need to use the bathroom   Jan 17 2006, 07:20 PM
|- - Jeff7   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 17 2006, 02:20 PM)[HOLD IT...   Jan 17 2006, 07:22 PM
- - dvandorn   Go quickly, count resumes in five minutes (if it r...   Jan 17 2006, 07:21 PM
|- - MahFL   all the websites are oveloaded   Jan 17 2006, 07:26 PM
|- - helvick   Hats off to these Launch control guys - the job ne...   Jan 17 2006, 07:27 PM
|- - imran   Tomorrow looks like another bad day. Wednesday...   Jan 17 2006, 07:34 PM
- - dvandorn   New T-0 coming, DSN has a problem... -the other D...   Jan 17 2006, 07:23 PM
- - jamescanvin   Another delay   Jan 17 2006, 07:23 PM
- - Ames   Arrrgh! New TO TBD   Jan 17 2006, 07:23 PM
- - Toma B   New time...   Jan 17 2006, 07:24 PM
- - dvandorn   New T-0 19:50 Zulu. -the other Doug   Jan 17 2006, 07:24 PM
- - Sunspot   lol.....this isn't going to happen today.   Jan 17 2006, 07:25 PM
- - RNeuhaus   The later is the afternoon, the better is the time...   Jan 17 2006, 07:32 PM
- - Toma B   Spaceflightnow.com: 1930 GMT (2:30 p.m. EST) A pol...   Jan 17 2006, 07:36 PM
- - PhilCo126   Not to mention the preparations... and technical +...   Jan 17 2006, 07:37 PM
|- - imran   Another delay   Jan 17 2006, 07:43 PM
- - dvandorn   New T-0 20:05 Zulu.. No reason given. -the other...   Jan 17 2006, 07:43 PM
|- - Rakhir   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 17 2006, 09:43 PM)New T...   Jan 17 2006, 07:45 PM
- - Ames   Another new profile into the IMU Looks like winds...   Jan 17 2006, 07:44 PM
- - RNeuhaus   Another good step : 1939 GMT (2:39 p.m. EST) The ...   Jan 17 2006, 07:46 PM
- - Redstone   For those of you keeping score at home... T:0 tim...   Jan 17 2006, 07:47 PM
- - Holder of the Two Leashes   This is starting to get really intense.   Jan 17 2006, 07:49 PM
|- - Ames   QUOTE (Holder of the Two Leashes @ Jan 17 200...   Jan 17 2006, 07:52 PM
|- - helvick   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 17 2006, 08:52 PM)"Sta...   Jan 17 2006, 08:01 PM
|- - just-nick   QUOTE (Ames @ Jan 17 2006, 12:52 PM)I am gonn...   Jan 17 2006, 08:01 PM
|- - Ames   QUOTE (just-nick @ Jan 17 2006, 09:01 PM...   Jan 17 2006, 08:14 PM
|- - helvick   Go, Go, Go, Go, Go, Go, Go .. Lovely sounds. Espe...   Jan 17 2006, 08:17 PM
- - Analyst   I prefer the shuttle/ISS windows - 5 minutes or so...   Jan 17 2006, 07:50 PM
|- - imran   Upper levels are still a problem.   Jan 17 2006, 07:53 PM
|- - Bjorn Jonsson   Increasingly looking like a scrub to me. Hopefully...   Jan 17 2006, 07:55 PM
- - PhilCo126   At least there're no fishing boats above the l...   Jan 17 2006, 07:55 PM
|- - imran   1955 GMT (2:55 p.m. EST) The new timeline calls f...   Jan 17 2006, 07:57 PM
- - just-nick   I'm lucky enough to be working from home today...   Jan 17 2006, 07:57 PM
- - dvandorn   Poll finished, ANOTHER new T-0 at 20:23 Zulu, all ...   Jan 17 2006, 07:58 PM
- - dvandorn   They're now going for the very end of the laun...   Jan 17 2006, 08:00 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (dvandorn @ Jan 17 2006, 11:00 PM)They...   Jan 17 2006, 08:02 PM
- - mchan   End of launch window. It will go then.   Jan 17 2006, 08:00 PM
- - Marz   Weren't they acceptable for the 3:05 window ac...   Jan 17 2006, 08:00 PM
- - Redstone   Just when the upper level winds went green, the gr...   Jan 17 2006, 08:02 PM
- - dvandorn   I just want it to get moving -- I have an appointm...   Jan 17 2006, 08:02 PM
- - odave   How much risk is there for launching exactly on th...   Jan 17 2006, 08:03 PM
|- - Redstone   QUOTE (odave @ Jan 17 2006, 03:03 PM)How much...   Jan 17 2006, 08:07 PM
|- - just-nick   QUOTE (odave @ Jan 17 2006, 01:03 PM)How much...   Jan 17 2006, 08:07 PM
- - PhilCo126   If it's a scrub, will the launch vehicle be br...   Jan 17 2006, 08:06 PM
|- - mchan   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 12:06 PM)If i...   Jan 17 2006, 08:07 PM
|- - Toma B   QUOTE (PhilCo126 @ Jan 17 2006, 11:06 PM)No c...   Jan 17 2006, 08:08 PM
- - PhilCo126   Well no onboard cams is a pitty and during the clo...   Jan 17 2006, 08:11 PM
- - PhilCo126   Great views of the base of the launcher ... lost t...   Jan 17 2006, 08:13 PM
- - Marz   GO!!!!   Jan 17 2006, 08:16 PM
- - Ames   All systems go! Nick   Jan 17 2006, 08:17 PM
- - Redstone   Wow, they are really giving it their best shot tod...   Jan 17 2006, 08:18 PM
- - dvandorn   We're counting... *fingers crossed*... C...   Jan 17 2006, 08:18 PM
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