New Horizons: Approach Phase, OpsNav - 25 January 15 to 28 June 15 |
New Horizons: Approach Phase, OpsNav - 25 January 15 to 28 June 15 |
Jun 27 2015, 06:35 PM
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Well this could mean several different things.
1) Previous observations have yielded lots of artifacts that have made their way into the final versions. 2) Current processing of NH data is yielding lots of artifacts 3) Pluto is quite active and has changed a bit in 20 years. I'll be hoping for door #3. Also, I think the maps actually look a lot alike. Edit: Here's a crude annotated comparison of features I notice. -------------------- |
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Jun 27 2015, 07:15 PM
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IMG to PNG GOD Group: Moderator Posts: 2251 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Near fire and ice Member No.: 38 |
I think the most likely explanation is that the resolution of the NH images is now considerably higher than the resolution of the previous older data. My map should be fairly accurate (keeping in mind the resolution of the source data), except near the pole.
Of course I'm hoping for ZLD's #3 (changes to the surface) but I have doubts about large scale changes (I'm not sure though how fast the albedo features could change due to e.g. condensation and/or sublimation). |
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Jun 27 2015, 08:37 PM
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Actually, if you look at the HST maps on Mark Buie's website: http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~buie/pluto/hrcmap.html They don't really match each other! Here is a comparison of an average of all five maps on Buie's page with the map I just posted above. I think the match is reasonable. The large dark patch and adjacent bright region are quite similar. [attachment=36297:buie_ave...rizons_3.jpg] Phil Good catch. Maybe plutos atmosphere is more fluid and active than we think. Maybe the surface is always changing. Ive seen a few videos of the possibility of planetwide hydrocarbon snowfalls on a pretty frequent basis when its closer to the sun. |
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Jun 28 2015, 01:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
Well this could mean several different things. 1) Previous observations have yielded lots of artifacts that have made their way into the final versions. 2) Current processing of NH data is yielding lots of artifacts 3) Pluto is quite active and has changed a bit in 20 years. Also, the HST maps were based on imagery using blue and ultraviolet filters. LORRI uses "wide spectral region extending approximately from 350 nm to 850 nm." A lot of worlds look different in UV than in a wide spectral range centered on the visible. Don't overlook this possible source of discrepancy. |
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Jun 28 2015, 01:57 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10167 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
New images from the 27th. We just have 2 (so far) - here they are enlarged 4x and merged with some stretching and sharpening. A bit more detail on Charon now?
Phil PS - this is south up... the dark polar spot isn't apparent. Not sure why. -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 28 2015, 02:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 27-September 10 Member No.: 5458 |
June 27th data. Only 2 images again so word of caution in regards to noise presence.
(click to animate) Also, I've been looking for a good short series of the Triton approach to test this same method on. If anyone wants to clue me in other than scouring OPUS/PA or the image indexes, I would grateful. -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2015, 03:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 31-January 15 From: Houston, TX USA Member No.: 7390 |
June 27th data. Only 2 images again so word of caution in regards to noise presence. ... Also, I've been looking for a good short series of the Triton approach to test this same method on. If anyone wants to clue me in other than scouring OPUS/PA or the image indexes, I would grateful. That dark "patch" towards the sourthern part of Pluto still surprises me. I keep waiting for detail to emerge but nothing yet. That brings me to a question. Is the black patch on Pluto about the same brightness as the dark pole of Charon? I keep thinking Charon's pole is lighter but that may be an optical illusion. And, a second question...Was there enough resolution two weeks ago to actually tell if any of the bright areas towards the southern pole of Pluto have changed shape? I'm obviously thinking about clouds (or at least wispy versions of clouds). Changes in shape would be one way to get a hint of clouds. Andy |
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Jun 28 2015, 03:50 AM
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Solar System Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 10167 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Canada Member No.: 227 |
That picture is south-up. The dark area is south of the equator. It's not the same as the tiny dark spot at the north pole which Bjorn illustrated earlier.
Phil -------------------- ... because the Solar System ain't gonna map itself.
Also to be found posting similar content on https://mastodon.social/@PhilStooke Maps for download (free PD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cartography.pdf NOTE: everything created by me which I post on UMSF is considered to be in the public domain (NOT CC, public domain) |
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Jun 28 2015, 03:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 31-January 15 From: Houston, TX USA Member No.: 7390 |
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Jun 28 2015, 04:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 362 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Malta Member No.: 741 |
Circa 40% of Tritons surface was imaged by Voyager..what percentage of Plutos surface will be imaged at close encounter by NH?
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Jun 28 2015, 04:21 AM
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Jun 28 2015, 04:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 555 Joined: 27-September 10 Member No.: 5458 |
June 26, single image.
(click to animate) (non corrected orientation) The sharpness of Charon is almost certainly not real. The features may be similar but I don't think i can pull that sharp of a line. ----- Edit ----- Didn't realize there was such a large dump today. Here's another from June 26. (click to animate) -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2015, 08:12 AM
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Merciless Robot Group: Admin Posts: 8784 Joined: 8-December 05 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 602 |
MOD NOTE: The New Horizons Pluto System Encounter thread is now open. Please post all observations after 28 Jun 15 on that thread. Thanks!
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Jun 28 2015, 11:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 423 Joined: 13-November 14 From: Norway Member No.: 7310 |
Placing a bet on a relatively bright spot on Charon (centre-left; from 27 June)
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Jun 28 2015, 07:06 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 8-October 12 Member No.: 6692 |
New images from the 27th. We just have 2 (so far) - here they are enlarged 4x and merged with some stretching and sharpening. A bit more detail on Charon now? Phil PS - this is south up... the dark polar spot isn't apparent. Not sure why. The two big dark patches [ one next to the South pole and the other one next to it ] - are they not just craters ? To my untrained eye, it seems like that for a week or so. |
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