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The Grand Tour, A proposal that ended with Voyager 1 & 2
Guest_Myran_*
post Aug 21 2005, 06:37 PM
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Seeing descriptions and even images of old projects that never did get underway, my memory was stimulated into remember 'The grand tour' plans.

Back in the 1960 the proposal was to fly no less than 4 spacecrafts, each with atmospheric probes for the four gas giants and one even with a flyby of Pluto after swinging past Jupiter and Uranus.

The proposal for this project did fare the same way as many other ambitious plans, that of limited funding but it was skillfuly advocated and eventually ended up with the dual Voyagers (which btw originally only was planned for flyby's of Jupiter and Saturn).

Regardless, if anyone remember some tidbits or even sits on more specific information I would be happy to have my memory refreshed. Thank you in advance! smile.gif
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Guest_Myran_*
post Aug 22 2005, 07:15 AM
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Thank you BruceMoomaw for your reply. smile.gif
Yes I distictly remember it was supposed to be four probes, and not two which is said on some sources like Wikipedia. For the number of only two I think theres some confusion with the dual Pioneers that also was a spinoff of sorts from the early Grand Tour proposals. But in the end it was the Voyagers that carried out the plan and did so very well, getting us a clear look at the moons of Jupiter and Saturn but also the only clear views of Uranus and Neptune that I will ever get.
But I agree its a pity we did miss out on Pluto, the opportunity was there. It will be a close call for me with New Horizons in 2015, lets try! wink.gif

Regardless, I do remember a plan that involved cone shaped atmospheric probes in regard with the first four probe plan, and I remember that one well since it had a graph. But that proposal might not have been one AMES or JPL proposal at all but originated somewhere else like at some university. After 40 years things in my memory tend to blend somewhat.
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- Myran   The Grand Tour   Aug 21 2005, 06:37 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   There was a nice detailed article on it -- and its...   Aug 21 2005, 08:47 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Aug 21 2005, 08:47 PM)Ha...   Aug 21 2005, 11:26 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   You may be right -- but one of them could certainl...   Aug 21 2005, 11:41 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Aug 21 2005, 11:41 PM)Yo...   Aug 22 2005, 12:14 AM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (tedstryk @ Aug 21 2005, 05:14 PM)The c...   Aug 22 2005, 02:51 AM
|- - ljk4-1   QUOTE (JRehling @ Aug 21 2005, 09:51 PM)I don...   Aug 22 2005, 07:44 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Aug 22 2005, 08:44 PM)Ar...   Aug 22 2005, 08:05 PM
|- - JRehling   QUOTE (ljk4-1 @ Aug 22 2005, 12:44 PM)Ar...   Aug 22 2005, 08:54 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   The Voyager Titan surface images are remarkable...   Aug 22 2005, 09:31 PM
- - edstrick   The Voyager 1 Titan flyby was enormously successfu...   Aug 22 2005, 07:02 AM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (edstrick @ Aug 22 2005, 07:02 AM)The o...   Aug 23 2005, 03:57 PM
- - Myran   Thank you BruceMoomaw for your reply. Yes I dis...   Aug 22 2005, 07:15 AM
- - dvandorn   Exactly -- each mission does, indeed, build upon w...   Aug 22 2005, 07:32 AM
- - BruceMoomaw   The article I was after is D. Rubashkin's ...   Aug 22 2005, 08:26 AM
- - edstrick   The vehicle for grand tour was for a while at leas...   Aug 22 2005, 08:41 AM
|- - Bob Shaw   I thought TOPS was Thermo-electric Outer Planetary...   Aug 22 2005, 10:10 AM
- - Myran   Thank you dvandorn, you nailed it there. The timef...   Aug 22 2005, 12:01 PM
- - edstrick   Mariner Jupiter/Uranus was sunk by both the Shuttl...   Aug 22 2005, 12:08 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   You may rest assured that either one of them would...   Aug 22 2005, 12:52 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Hmmm... ...an outer planetary mission with a self-...   Aug 22 2005, 12:59 PM
|- - tedstryk   QUOTE (BruceMoomaw @ Aug 22 2005, 12:52 PM)On...   Aug 22 2005, 08:03 PM
- - Myran   Hehe! I see that Bob Shaw have seen the 2001 m...   Aug 22 2005, 02:43 PM
|- - Bob Shaw   Myran: They said that about XP! Bob Shaw   Aug 22 2005, 03:15 PM
- - Analyst   Besides the paper „Who killed the Grand Tour?“ pub...   Aug 22 2005, 06:24 PM
- - edstrick   Pioneer's Saturn flyby was "forced" ...   Aug 22 2005, 08:18 PM
- - BruceMoomaw   Ah. I had forgotten that Pioneer 11 flew through ...   Aug 22 2005, 11:47 PM
|- - ljk4-1   The famous August, 1970 issue of National Geograph...   Aug 23 2005, 01:19 PM
- - gndonald   Apologies for bumping a really old thread, but I h...   Sep 21 2013, 10:35 AM


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