Complete Science Data Of Galileo Probe Mission? |
Complete Science Data Of Galileo Probe Mission? |
Sep 8 2005, 07:56 AM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 6-September 05 From: Paderborn, Germany Member No.: 484 |
Hello there.
I've got a question about the science data of the galileo probe mission (Plunge into jupiters atmosphere). Is it possible to download the complete dataset of the mission? If yes, where can I find those data? I've tried to find them with google, but I found nothing. Thx for help... (Sorry for my bad english. I don't use it so often, because I'm from germany ) -------------------- --- Under Construction ---
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Sep 8 2005, 01:02 PM
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Founder Group: Chairman Posts: 14432 Joined: 8-February 04 Member No.: 1 |
Feasable perhaps, but fairly pointless I'd have thought. You know that bit on a plane flight when you're going thru the clouds and you cant see the end of the wing.....
That - plus the bandwidth from probe-to-orbiter was fairly poor I'd imagine, much like Huygens was. Doug |
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Sep 8 2005, 03:04 PM
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Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 6-September 05 From: Paderborn, Germany Member No.: 484 |
QUOTE (djellison @ Sep 8 2005, 02:02 PM) 3.8 Megabit of data was collected. Mostly scientific data from jupiters atmosphere. But I've seen some pictures from the galileo probe mission on TV some years ago. Those pictures were from the cloud structures (Below cloud top). They looked like radar pictures, but the probe did not have a radar. Thanks for the link djellison. That is, what I was searching for. -------------------- --- Under Construction ---
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Sep 8 2005, 04:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2530 Joined: 20-April 05 Member No.: 321 |
QUOTE (Dominik @ Sep 8 2005, 08:04 AM) 3.8 Megabit of data was collected. Mostly scientific data from jupiters atmosphere. But I've seen some pictures from the galileo probe mission on TV some years ago. Those pictures were from the cloud structures (Below cloud top). They looked like radar pictures, but the probe did not have a radar. Thanks for the link djellison. That is, what I was searching for. The subcloud "pictures" I think you are referring to were reconstructed images based on models made from the Galileo *Orbiter*. Images made in different methane bands bring out detail from different depths. Those "visualizations" assumed that the clouds form three discrete thin sheets with clear air between them. Then they were colored. You can see lots of them here: http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/sepo/atju...s/latitude.html A descent probe into Jupiter has such limited bandwidth opportunity, and such limited payload mass, with such uncertain prospects for seeing *anything* that it is hard to rationalize a camera. The Galileo Probe instrument payload was about 25 kg or a bit more than that. Huygens's camera was 8.5 kg -- what third of Galileo's payload would you have gotten rid of to get what might be one or two totally featureless pictures, and even in a good case might have looked like BW pictures of terrestrial cumulus clouds? |
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Sep 8 2005, 05:18 PM
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A descent probe into Jupiter has such limited bandwidth opportunity, and such limited payload mass, with such uncertain prospects for seeing *anything* that it is hard to rationalize a camera. The Galileo Probe instrument payload was about 25 kg or a bit more than that. Huygens's camera was 8.5 kg -- what third of Galileo's payload would you have gotten rid of to get what might be one or two totally featureless pictures, and even in a good case might have looked like BW pictures of terrestrial cumulus clouds?
Well, future probes may well have better data bandwidth than what you are used to. I don't see uncertainty about what a camera would see as good reason to assume a camera isn't desirable. this may be apocrophal but I recall in my USGS days hearing talk about a debate on whether the Pioneer F abd G spacecraft should have any imaging capability at all, after all, what could possibly be interesting about cloud tops? As it was the imaging Photopolerimeter was a cheap crappy substitute for a camera which was better than nothing, but outclassed by the real cameras the Voyagerws later carried. Don |
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Sep 8 2005, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2454 Joined: 8-July 05 From: NGC 5907 Member No.: 430 |
QUOTE (DDAVIS @ Sep 8 2005, 12:18 PM) this may be apocrophal but I recall in my USGS days hearing talk about a debate on whether the Pioneer F abd G spacecraft should have any imaging capability at all, after all, what could possibly be interesting about cloud tops? As it was the imaging Photopolerimeter was a cheap crappy substitute for a camera which was better than nothing, but outclassed by the real cameras the Voyagerws later carried. Don They also assumed the Mercury astronauts wouldn't want to look out a window of their spacecraft, either. Nothing sells space exploration like optical images. As for a camera on an Jupiter atmosphere probe, how about an infrared one for cutting through the haze and clouds? -------------------- "After having some business dealings with men, I am occasionally chagrined,
and feel as if I had done some wrong, and it is hard to forget the ugly circumstance. I see that such intercourse long continued would make one thoroughly prosaic, hard, and coarse. But the longest intercourse with Nature, though in her rudest moods, does not thus harden and make coarse. A hard, sensible man whom we liken to a rock is indeed much harder than a rock. From hard, coarse, insensible men with whom I have no sympathy, I go to commune with the rocks, whose hearts are comparatively soft." - Henry David Thoreau, November 15, 1853 |
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Sep 8 2005, 07:39 PM
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