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paxdan
post Apr 7 2005, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (dot.dk @ Apr 6 2005, 05:26 PM)
I just had to do like paxdan said  tongue.gif


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Thanks for dropping Oppy in the polar-pan, now thats what i call a self portrait.

I love the perspective, a martian birds-eye view. The thing i really like is that all the images are actually from the spacecraft itself. The closest thing i have seen to this kind of polar-pan self-portrait was this image from the pathfinder mission. However, the self portrait part was created from a photo of a museum model. Anyone have a link to the same thing from Viking 1 and 2 (the landers not the craters. OK, must try and drag myself back on topic.

Hey, if there are any rover image sequencers out there, when you are doing the definitive pans from the top of Husband Hill and of Victoria please can you throw in the self-portrait sequence (that is if you don't already plan to) so we have complete coverage when it comes to doing the the polar-pans. thanks. biggrin.gif

I have seen this question be asked several times before but is there a problem with the exploratorium again. I realise there are several different URLs, however none of the explatorium links on this page have worked. Does it load quickly for you guys? It constantly times out for me. It definately isn't my connection as i am on a superwizzy 10 Mbit/s link.

Want to see Erebus.
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post Apr 7 2005, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 7 2005, 08:18 AM)
I have seen this question be asked several times before but is there a problem with the exploratorium again. I realise there are several different URLs, however none of the explatorium links on this page have worked. Does it load quickly for you guys? It constantly times out for me. It definately isn't my connection as i am on a superwizzy 10 Mbit/s link.


It's fine here ohmy.gif

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post Apr 7 2005, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 7 2005, 09:54 AM)
It's fine here ohmy.gif

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Ok it's back and loading fine now. Hmm, if that is Erebus are we at the point where we can be confident that the etched terrain is gong to consist of flat areas of the exposed evaporate layer occupying the space between the dune crests where sand has been removed by wind action. Like vostock or the crazy-paving apron of endurance but with dune remnents snaking accross it. If so it doesn't look like it will present any obstacle to mobility. Roll on Victoria...
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post Apr 7 2005, 10:19 AM
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There's some elevation in there I think.

For those that use 3d programs - take something like eagle crater - then scale it in X and Y only ( not Z ) by 10000% - and I think that's what erebus will be like smile.gif

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post Apr 7 2005, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (paxdan @ Apr 7 2005, 04:18 AM)
I have seen this question be asked several times before but is there a problem with the exploratorium again. I realise there are several different URLs, however none of the explatorium links on this page have worked. Does it load quickly for you guys? It constantly times out for me. It definately isn't my connection as i am


When I'm accessing exploratorium from work (T1), I've found that I have to use the nasa.exploratorium.edu URL and remove the port number. Otherwise I get timeouts. When accessing from home (26k dialup) , I can use the qt.exploratorium.edu URL with port numbers just fine. I think the difference may be in the firewall used at my work, but I'm not sure.

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post Apr 7 2005, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (odave @ Apr 7 2005, 11:44 AM)
(T1)......(26k dialup)


You didnt have Mars Odyssey safe mode on you as WELL did you smile.gif

Dial up - broadband was the analogy I used to explain it to my other half smile.gif

Then again - T1 is a smidge more than 'broadband'.

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post Apr 7 2005, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 7 2005, 07:52 AM)
You didnt have Mars Odyssey safe mode on you as WELL did you smile.gif


That's exactly how it feels at either end of my commute smile.gif I live out in the sticks where the phone lines are bad. For me, surfing from home is a good exercise in patience and multi-tasking.

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QUOTE (odave @ Apr 7 2005, 12:44 PM)
When I'm accessing exploratorium from work (T1), I've found that I have to use the nasa.exploratorium.edu URL and remove the port number.
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Yup, that'll be it.

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Phil Stooke
post Apr 7 2005, 01:00 PM
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Paxdan asked about links to polar (or donut... I use that term because it was used back in the Viking period, 1976-77 ... I'm fossilized enough to recall those far-off days) reprojections of the Viking sites. You can find V1, V2 and Pathfinder at low resolution only (sorry) at this site:

http://publish.uwo.ca/~pjstooke/viksites.htm

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post Apr 7 2005, 01:03 PM
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confident that the etched terrain is gong to consist of flat areas of the exposed evaporate layer occupying the space between the dune crests where sand has been removed by wind action


My concern would be that the etched terrain consists of a lot of 2-3 foot steep dropoffs and the wind-shadowed sides of the outcrops have loose sand-sized material deposited. Similar to the problems Oppy ran into in Endurance near the dune field. We'll see what the terrain is like as Oppy nears Erebus.

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post Apr 7 2005, 05:30 PM
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Here's a polar view of Naturaliste crater. The original pan was a JPL release. I will do the same for Viking and Voyager if JPL or anyone here posts a pan of either.

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post Apr 8 2005, 04:57 AM
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QUOTE (djellison @ Apr 7 2005, 04:19 AM)
There's some elevation in there I think.

For those that use 3d programs - take something like eagle crater - then scale it in X and Y only ( not Z ) by 10000% - and I think that's what erebus will be like smile.gif

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It looks like Erebus' walls are still partially intact along some arcs of the old circle. I think you're right, the crater itself looks completely filled in, such that the landform is going to look from the ground like a very low ringwall sticking up a foot or two from the plains.

It may not give us any deeper layering into the evaporite, but the ringwall of Erebus *is* the very rim of a crater roughly half the size of Victoria. Certainly a much larger impact structure than we've visited thus far. So it's possible that some of the rocks exposed in and around the ringwall will come from *much* deeper than we've yet seen.

Of course, those rocks may well be the basalts that underlied the sea and provided a base for the evaporite layer... we'll just have to wait and see.

In any event, it seems to me that there *may* be a Burn's Cliff sticking right out of the sand up there at Erebus, right within easy reach all along its height and breadth... I can't wait to see!

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post Apr 8 2005, 06:31 AM
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Updated Opportunity Route Map:
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post Apr 8 2005, 08:36 AM
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Yup - didnt hang around at Vik+VOy very long, especially with the crud downlink during that time. Hell - Erebus for next weekend smile.gif

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I am glad they are moving on, those were just 2 small craters, not much new to be seen there. On to the older crater with some small cliffs, and some etched terrain smile.gif
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